Nerfing Weapons in this Game

Oh no, not the concept!

And I suggest you to change your translator to make maybe at least 50% of your sentences making sense.

I dont know. Why do you complain when you do the excat same (assuming all the insults and mean nicknames and the alt flagging were made deliberately and not made by the translator)?

If that means I will never learn how to crash a plane and defend it as tactic… well, I can only say…
oh-no-anyway

Dont hate the player, hate the game bruh…

Well, we cant change the game because of the dumb players dumb mechanics attract considering it as discrimination.
I also make the bold claim and say that stuff like this wasnt happening 3-4 years ago (or at least not at this scale) where it was possible too like suicide cycling or mine spam. Flak also wasnt that awful to play against back then.

bro… all games have trolls this one is now different… use your head and out smart the enemy… thats all there is to it… you need to adapt… do your soldiers not carry grenades or moltov?? before you run into obj or desired location maybe toss one too clear area… not that hard… a lot of times the enemy will get killed by their own ap mines or take damage from them if you do that… think outside the box… i dont think the mines are the issue i think its narrow minded game play that might be the issue here…

my thoughts exactly… you must be a “Tanking God.” your wisdom how to navigate through retarded posts and complaints is impeccable. o7

I’ve literally never seen a grenade actually clear mines in any reasonable way. They might blow up one, if you land it right on top of it. Yet there are aholes who do nothing but spam mines everywhere and expecting people to waste a minute cooking and throwing grenades hoping to kinda clear the point is asinine. Especially since mines take zero skill and zero time to spam. You can clear the capzone and it’s going to be riddled with mines 5s after you lose it

The fact that it annoys the hell out of you makes it a more effective weapon:

  1. It slows you down forcing you to deal with the mines (time is also a resource that you can take from your enemy), and…

  2. It affects your mood—thereby making it an extremely good psychological weapon (pysops).

Overall, it’s a very good weapon that can be used in many different ways.

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You had a damn good point @BodyBagger111

Shame it got derailed.

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Everybody has their own opinion and play style, I guess.

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Any particular meta regardless of what it is shouldn’t be so flimsy that people fear a few things changing. Nerfing never ends if that becomes the norm. God forbid anyone adapt to a different playstyle because something changed or got introduced. Sometimes it is, but more often than not nerfing is not the solution.

Since starting this game I’ve reinvented my playstyle at least 5 times often because of what becomes popular or overused. It’s part of the fun, figure out what works against what’s coming at you.

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Oh, so you know this is a shooting game, not a stupid game of throwing or burying cans
So if some players use these methods to avoid the original gameplay of shooting games and turn to a way to easily get kills, and this gameplay begins to be abused
The only thing developers have to do is to weaken/delete it
This is a shooting game. The most basic gameplay is to use guns to fight. Grenades, mines and other props are only auxiliary and can never be the protagonist
If you think the mines are too weak, you should think about it. The mines in similar games either take a lot of time to bury or are as weak as the mines in this game
Battlefield 5’s mines are weaker and easier to detonate. When triggered, you can quickly lie down to avoid damage

Mine in more hardcore shooting games such as Red Orchestra 2 has a complete mine laying action and strictly limits the number of mines to ensure that they will not be abused

This is why they are successful shooting games

If you want a game where you can simply kill a large number of enemies by throwing a few grenade cans, then please don’t forget how many players here in 2022~2023 were beaten by Chinese players using a large number of white phosphorus grenades and impact grenades and came to the forum to ask for weakening

If you want the mines in this game to be thrown away like a can of Coke after drinking to simply kill the enemy, it would be too sad

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NO, this is NOT just a shooting game: it’s a strategy and tactics game. If this were just a shooting game, there would be no other weapons in the game and no objectives to cap—and it would be called a “team deathmatch” type of game. I use the general term “shooter game” to describe the end result of somebody dying by some weapon on the battlefield, whether it’s a gun, a mine, a tank, etc. The weapon is a irrelevant; the point I was trying to make is that all weapons should kill in this game.

Unfortunately, people like you are nothing more than runners & gunners with no functioning knowledge to understand the concept of proper military strategy and tactics. I’m guessing you never put down spawn points or ammunition boxes for your team. You’re too busy shooting your gun to worry about such things.

OMG, you couldn’t be more wrong! You have such tunnel vision. If you want to limit yourself inside the tiny box that you’ve created, be my guest. But I choose to use ALL weapons in the game when it’s appropriate to do so.

All you talk about is shooting, shooting, shooting. Not once did you ever mention capping a point in this game. I know your play style: You’ll run all over the map and even stand 2 feet outside the zone, all while the enemy captures a point. You’d rather die than step 1 foot inside the cap zone. You also believe that k/d is the most important measure of success in this game. Once again, WRONG!

Have fun with your pew pew gun while I calculate your next move with the utmost of precision so I can blow you up with my tank, AP mine, or whatever weapon I choose to end your life. Remember, YOU don’t get to decide how you die in this game; I DO!

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The answer is that one faction in my warehouse has more than 40 white phosphorus grenades and more than 30 impact grenades and a large number of mines. These are enough to prove that I have used your so-called “advanced tactics”. These idiotic gameplays are much simpler for me than shooting. When they are strong, I will choose to use them without hesitation.

Because I am a player, I know how to be most efficient

You want to abuse these props? I know abuse better than you

The tactics you tout are just a means of killing enemies that is simpler than shooting. In my opinion, there is no skill at all

If you still have memories, you should remember how many people in this community complained about these problems in the past two years, about the abuse of impact grenades, white phosphorus grenades or mines

haha

Why are you so resistant to shooting gameplay in shooting games? Is it because you are not good at using firearms?

If you want me to answer you in a shorter way, it is:
Skill problem

Yet you are now crying in the community over a minor nerf
If you really play the way you say, then why are you crying? They still work well, they just require more skills
Impact grenades require you to throw more accurately, mines can still be planted in key points, their gameplay has not changed at all, just slightly changed the value
Then what are you complaining about? Can’t it be used more simply?

pffft…

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