Thompson 1923
Despite the fact it has
810 rpm
30 rnd mag
6.8 damage
Those are the stats of the ZK 383 yet it’s br2 I and others think it should be BR 3
MG 42 100 rnd
I think the rof should be lower like much lower maybe to like the MG 34 for balance bc a 100 rnd MG with 990 rpm is too much for br5 especially for a TT model
Pz shrek why not the prototype super bazooka just give it more pen and give Japan a high tier AT launcher this point
such as oh i know german, ussr takes from german then has it stolen by japan genius
MG42 had high rof (1200 was common) so either deal with it or play MG34. I don’t see why we should mutilate a gun by removing it’s real parameters to make it more like some other gun.
Big differences between
Realism and gameplay
Realism 1200 rpm
Gameplay 990
If you’re gonna go one the realism part you shouldn’t be able to swim with most soldier kits due to its usually a additional weight that makes it impossible to swim with or sink
Except you can bypass the gun you don’t like by using a different gun. You can’t bypass swimming.
I don’t see why guns shouldn’t have realistic stats (when it’s possible of course). We have literary 1000s of guns to chose from so if you don’t like one, try something else.
because br is based on stats increasing rate of fire means increasing br, increasing magazine means increasing br and there are only 5 br’s so if you increase the stats of a br5 gun well ooops data error
Except increasing rof of MG42 is more of a nerf than a buff. That’s exactly what SmallebigE complains about.
Personally I think about 800 rpm is a good rate of fire for MGs, anything more is just a waste of bullets. (SMGs are a different story as they have significantly less damage per bullet. Also let’s ignore technical things like server issues etc. because this gets too complicated.)
Tldr, big number = better is not always the case.
MG42 had high rof (1200 was common) so either deal with it or play MG34 -you can’t ask for a buff and call it a nerf-
Personally I think about 800 rpm is a good rate of fire for MGs, anything more is just a waste of bullets. so you want them to lower the rate of fire even lower to 800
listen to my words you cannot say (but the gun had a 1200rpm) asking to increase the rate of fire
i will be blunt increasing it from 1000 bpm to 1200 bpm is a buff 1000 to 800 is a nerf if you want to buff a br5 weapon you cannot. so if you want to nerf the gun to 800 rpm i approve but dont call a +200 rpm a nerf and not a buff
Bc there’s balancing balancing is inherently something for gaming
Like “realistic” shooters can’t do 100% realism bc of game balance this what it is
Like example the M1 bazooka has 80mm of pen is has reality 90mm of pen why they do that so it doesn’t over power any vehicle in br2
Why the Fnab isn’t 800 rpm bc it’s more better for gameplay to have it in br2
The MG 42 100 rnd MG rof should be lower bc br5 is already damn near unplayable and this would only exacerbate the issue of that
A gun with 1200rpm won’t be any better at killing than 1000rpm one, but it will run out of ammo faster.
So it’s overall a nerf imo.
The 39 and 45 exist is doesn’t further “nerf” the gun it furthers buffing the guns I know bc I used these before and it’s already annoying to fight
Just use MG34PT? Why not? Because of those 25 bullets you will lack?
then you should want a 800 rpm over a 1200, do not pee on my shoe and call it rain, do not ask for a buff and call it a nerf
Yeah and it’s already good you just need to use your brain
But issue we’re talking about German mains which think the 34 isn’t good bc it’s a 34
Why should I want this? Do you know what I want better than me?
I want 1200rpm because that’s what this gun had irl and it’s what it’s known for. Even it it makes it overall weaker.
And yes, too much rof is a nerf.
Well, if 34PT is good than use it instead of screwing the 42. I see no downsides to it.
Unfortunately I don’t think you can fix ppl’s stupidity by changing numbers. That would be too easy.
Personally I think 34 (50 round one) is superior to 42 (50 round one) in every way. Maybe except for sights as many ppl don’t like 34’s one.
rejected, more ammo higher rate of fire, you cannot nerf damage nor accuracy so rejected. this is a game not a history lesson, i don;'t see you demanding tiger tanks and panthers be less reliable that would be historically accurate.
You can do other nerfs than recoil, accuracy etc. But both devs and big part of community are too mentally challenged to think outside of the box.
Also we were speaking about rof so why do you mention more ammo?
Gun shooting as fast as in reality and tanks being unusable due to mechanical failures are on a completely different level.
Better comparison would be to say “I don’t see you demanding tanks have real armor values”. Except we already have that (mostly). Otherwise I want my Pz3 with 80mm frontal armor as mirror balance of the KV1.
the reason is skill, no matter how good you are you cannot shoot faster
so it would need to be a heavy enough nerf to accuracy and recoil so that a good player could not just ignore/overcome it,
Germany has the weakest smgs at br2 and yet Americans just keep getting better and better guns at their BR2/BR3 it’s getting ridiculous. They should downtier a lot of smgs to br2/3 and also give us FNAB with faster rof.
