Mp717(r)

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i think you are thinking of the mp41 (r) one

since 717 isnt an event weapon

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What’s the difference? I swear I got it in an event a while back as DF’s “let everyone get a chance to have it after Merge”

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ammo

41 have 35 and 717 have 71

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Ooohhh yeah I’m thinking of the box mag

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Definitely needs to be added to the German TT and the Suomi KP-31 and KP-44 should also be added.

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I bought 30 to 35 of those back then. And 50 m93.

Yet I don’t mind at all if those are implemented in TT. It could help axis tech tree a little and they’re fun to use.

Axis would have a good smg at br5. Kiraly doesn’t cut it with it’s jumping recoil and is br4 worthy.

M93 wouldn’t add much advantage other than shooting with a very elegant rifle, that is fun to use.

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As for factions exclusivity, it doesn’t work like that anymore.

  • Japan got m28.
  • Soviets got all axis fausts, some allies planes, the m3 and the 76 Sherman. And some Thompsons with pizza sized drums.
  • Allies recently got the shrekwithoutashield.
    It’d be really fine if axis got the captured ppsh41.

On another note, I would welcome back the tommy 1921 for Soviets which was available in Stalingrad. Not needed by a long shot since Soviets smgs are all better at such br, but it’s fun so why not.

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What if we added Soumi kp-31 instead of Ppsh-41?
Maybe slightly change the premium version, give it a little buff so no one is offended.

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They just dont have to ask as they get stuff from diffrent factions. (captured or leased)
Just like the allied ofenrohr. Nobody asked for it but the devs gave it anyway.
Meanwhile germany can be happy if they get a more or less reskin of an existing weapon.

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Well, you’re mentioning Ofenrohr (Which I also think was a very bad move giving it away like that) when instead they could’ve given a reskinned Bazooka with buffed stats, and I bet it would’ve been welcomed not as controversially. But that’s an entirely different topic.

Meanwhile, I’m talking exclusively about Axis and Soviets weaponry, and how they fit ‘reasonably’ in their tech-trees, each one with appropriate counters within the game’s context. And still retaining a unique flavour in each faction.

US vs GE, that’s a different mess for another topic.

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Then land lease still exists. Those where not domesticly produced so why can you research them?
Or what about the panzerfaust?

If you want to be butt hurt over germany having a captured weapon, when your own tech tree is filled with foraign weapons, then please get rid of those first.

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Just add a unique German SMG lol. Copy paste for the purpose of “but I want that too” is the worst type of copy paste.

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And if we are honest, the Japanese arsenal is copied from German, Czech and American guns and the FN Browning is just an export version of the Browning Shotgun. The KE-7 was not even used by Japan, but by China, so pretty much all of their gold order weapons.

And Madsen (TT), Chauchat (“Event” Premium) and Bazooka (TT).

B-but they got the Croatian PPSh modification too!

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Then we don’t need factions at all. Just give everything to everyone. Since you are okay with it and that’s what matters most.

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Tell that to the devs who started the trend loooong ago with Soviets… :smirk:

But seriously, a SINGLE captured weapon among all the entries of axis TT, which is what, 50? 100? Really won’t make a difference and require “the removal of factions”

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I love my MP717s and I love that they are so unique, along with the M93’s and the soviet Thompsons and Breda.

When I saw this month’s battle pass I almost thought the folding stock PPSH would be for Germany since they are so similar to the tech tree soviet ones.

The MP717 would be perfect for the new battle pass format so some people could get 4x of them, but I do not think they should be in the tech tree. They are a good gun for battle pass or even events.

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Exept they would be a terrible lure for those players who already had bought 20+ MP717 pre merge.
So if they recycle it in the BP a decent amount of the active players might not even want to buy the pass.

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KP-31 with 50 ammo mag could be an alternative

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The biggest problem i initially considered when creating this thread is, will it hurt the balance ?
Now i’ve been running soviet tech tree ppsh for a while, multiple squads, fully upgraded ppsh41 on everyone, and frankly, i don’t think its all that overpowered, really, in fact, i was kinda dissapointed a little.
Br5 is where all the super guns like: stg44, fg42 2, mg42 100, as44, fedorov, rd-44, avs and avt, etc etc etc, all these guns appear, and frankly, all them outperform ppsh, i’m not saying ppsh is bad, i still did good and a get a bunch of kills, depending on the map and the skill my german opponents, but i feel like it just aint it. So really, i don’t think it creates any sort if imbalance really.
So my points are:

  • it isnt OP
  • it is fun and somewhat unique being a bit different than soviet ppsh(lower recoil, different sights)
  • We have precedents of trophy guns in use, in tech tree( obrez ppsh, panzerfausts, bazooka, schreck,as44(is essentially a stg44 reskin statwise) etc)
  • Even more trophy guns in premium squads
  • But, not an outrageously insane amount of trophy guns overall, to make this addition a horrible step into wrong direction, that will lead to all factions having each others weapons
  • If im not wrong, we have precedent of legacy guns added into TT(browning 1918?)

Really, i just can’t see a reason why this, and after reading my thread for a bit, apparently all other legacy guns, to not comeback into tech tree, besides “Oh i want it to be so unique and speciiiiaaaaaaallll” and i’m sorry if it sounds mean, but thats just kinda how i feel like players think about it, i might be wrong of course.
Basically, whats the big deal with adding all the legacy guns back into TT ? They aren’t op, but they are fun, i just don’t see a problem in it.

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P.S. One way to go about adding all the legacy guns into TT, is to make them “sequence”, basically just folder them into guns like Kiraly and whatnot, this will make it so that you won’t have to grind for them if you dont want to, and can just move onto the next gun in line.

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those PewPewSh are mostly shining in CQC area unlique AR wich are more versatile. that’s why we don’t feel this gun that op

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