This is general gun performance chart. Red means it has lower performance and green vice-versa. It shows that PPD has advantage on muzzle velocity, RoF, vertical recoil, ammo per mag, cartridge mass and firing modes. While MP40 has advantage on only reload time, horizontal recoil and total ammo.
This is the performance difference expressed by percentage. We can find that the MP40’s most powerful strength compare to PPD is reload time (which got nerfed in yesterday’s update) and PPD’s, its ammo per mag.
This is the most interesting part of my research in my opinion. This represents the average damage by distance. As the graph shows, PPD has clear advantage on damage in any distance due to its very high rate of fire. As it was written in previous chart, PPD has 26% better vertical recoil while MO40 has only 13% in horizontal. With all information what I have, it shows that the common sense (that MP40 better at range and PPD better at cqc) was actually wrong. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get the gun dispersion. If I had it, it would be nice to compare them too.
i am just going to say that based on what i have seen op is right.
but i will also say that i dont really care. its a ppd, it was a good gun irl and it should be a good gun in game aswell. no need for nerfs, just enjoy the game
I mean yea its going too this is a world war two game the Russians did have smgs with higher rates of fire and larger magazines. This is meant to be a historically accurate realistic shooter come on why is everyone making threads comparing these two smgs like they want the Russian smgs nerfed.
Honestly who cares ? you can murder people efficiently with any smg in the game because there easy to kill with. What do people expect for the developers to nerf the rate of fire, accuracy and magazine size ?
Both sides get drastically different equipment that are good and bad in there own ways what do people want for both sides to have exactly to same submachine guns in terms overall performance ?
MP40 good
PPD good don’t nerf it as it does not need to be nerfed.
I know its sad really i never really complain about guns being “overpowered” in games because a lot of the time there not and its just something being perceived as overpowered when its not.
I only really complain about weapons that are underpowered like some of the revolvers.
Also how can you complain about a single weapon in enlisted being overpowered when you can kill effectively with basically anything with ease. You can run round a house and one shot everyone with a bayonet or kill like 30 guys all standing in a group with a tank MG. It just doesn’t matter nothing overpowered its just people thinking its overpowered.
the patronentrommel stands at a solid 5,7 unupgraded. but to be completely honest it is actually cartoonishly fast when upgraded with perk. so i wouldnt really care that much if they upped it a bit
Historical accuracy? Can you say the same phrase in front to T-50? I mean, me too, i like this game to be historically accurate, not like battlefield or CoD. But, at some extent. I don’t want my Enlisted to be a WW2 documentary. The drum mag hasd tendency to jam often and these PPD in game jam? Soviets weapons, in general, are good in theory but it wasn’t in real life. For example, T-34’s transmission was so hard to use but in game it smoothly moves with no difficulty. Or PV-1 in chaika works perfectly in game but in real life it jamed a lot. This is a game, and balance is important (symmetrical or asymmetrical). And PPD is completely overperforming. Aren’t we believed that “MP40 better at range and PPD better at cqc”? It’s not historically accurate it’s biased. I’m not saying that MP40 sucks. I think MP40 is at its perfect place. Just PPD outstanding.
Umm no. Youre mixing up DPS with damage. The PPD will kill faster if you land every shot, but because it has more dispersion that will be difficult. The MP40 does more damage, which isn’t insignificant. And MP40 has less shot dispersion.
One really important thing missing from here is the relationship between ROF and recoil. The faster you shoot, the more recoil you’re going to have. That’s why the MP40 shines at mid range and the PPD at close. At close range, recoil is irrelevant, and thus the PPD dominates. Longer ranges and the damage falloff combined with recoil makes the MP40 do quite well.
The MP40 also benefits from upgrades a lot more than the PPD does, since increased ROF is very good for it, but doesn’t matter as much for the PPD because it’s ROF is already so high that the returns are diminished.
