Hello bajtársak and fellow forumdwellers
Recently there has been some talk that the MP35/I is not worthy of BR3 which is objectively true.
If we compare this SMG to other SMGs that evolved from MP28 directly (plus MP40), we will see that it is severely uptiered at the moment.
The MP35/I is just a slightly stronger MP40 which is no longer considered a good submachine gun in its own BR.
| Submachine Guns | Damage | Reload Timings (s) | Statcard Recoil | Actual Recoil | Moving Spread Increase | |||||||||||||||||||
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| Weapon Name | Obtained | BR | 10m | 100m | Velocity | Magazine | Reload | Alt Reload | Rate of Fire | Vertical | Horizontal | Recoil Control | Vertical | Horizontal | Dispersion | While Aiming | Hipfiring | Visual Recoil | Recoil Dir | ADS Speed | Recoil Offset | Sprint Factor | Weight | Additional Info |
| MP 40 | 100000 RP | II | 7.0 | 4.0 | 400 | 32 | 2.1 | 1.71 | 570 | 27 | 9 | 0.3 | 8 | 3 | 0.70 | 0.0 | 15.0 | 1.6 | 0.35 | 0.8 | 0.3 | 100% | 4.7 | 32/128 |
| MP 35/I | 110000 RP | III | 7.2 | 4.2 | 440 | 32 | 2.9 | 2.1 | 620 | 31 | 8 | 0.4 | 12 | 3 | 0.65 | 0.0 | 15.0 | 1.6 | 0.67 | 0.78 | 0.3 | 100% | 4.0 | 32/128 |
| MP 28 (7.65mm) | 34000 RP | II | 6.6 | 3.3 | 370 | 50 | 3.2 | 2.8 | 630 | 19 | 10 | 0.3 | 6 | 3 | 0.71 | 0.0 | 15.0 | 1.0 | -0.4 | 0.72 | 0.3 | 100% | 5.4 | 50/100 |
| SIG 1920 | 58000 RP | III | 6.6 | 3.3 | 370 | 50 | 3.0 | 2.4 | 690 | 24 | 7 | 0.4 | 10 | 3 | 0.63 | 0.0 | 15.0 | 1.6 | 0.4 | 0.8 | 0.3 | 100% | 4.2 | 50/100 |
| Lanchester | 58000 RP | II | 6.8 | 4.0 | 400 | 32 | 2.3 | 1.8 | 690 | 30 | 11 | 0.4 | 12 | 4 | 0.71 | 0.0 | 15.0 | 1.6 | 0.1 | 0.8 | 0.3 | 100% | 5.2 | 32/128 |
| Lanchester 50 | Veteran’s Box | III | 6.8 | 4.0 | 400 | 50 | 2.3 | 1.80 | 690 | 18 | 9 | 0.4 | 7 | 4 | 0.71 | 0.0 | 15.0 | 1.0 | -0.4 | 0.74 | 0.3 | 100% | 5.6 | 50/100 |
All other SMGs that decesand from the MP28 have a higher rate of fire and most also have bigger magazines. MP35/I would be a mediocre submachine gun even on BR2.
Why not just move the MP35/I down to BR2?
I have two reasons why that shouldn’t be the case:
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First there is already the event MP35 on BR2.
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Second, Axis are already swimming in BR2 tech tree submachine guns, they already have 8 SMGs on BR2, for comparison Japan has a total of 8 tech tree submachine guns spread across 4 BRs (they have no BR5 SMG).
The base of the buffs:
MP35/I was produced in two variants, one chambered in 9x19 parabellum and another in 9x25 Mauser. It’s not clear which one is in the game, since the difference is just 6 millimeters in the magazine´s width.
Based on the muzzle velocity, its firing 9x25 Mauser (440 m/s, while 9mm Parabellum can only achieve 400-420 m/s at best).
However when looking into the open bolt, we see bullets that share the model with the bullets we see when looking into the MP40´s open bolt, now 9x19 and 9x25 are very similar so I wouldn’t be surprised if they just reused it. This should be sorted out when the MP35/I model is updated.
However the only way to keep this gun BR3 worthy is by buffing it with 9x25´s damage.
The Buffs:
The goal is to make MP35/I the ultimate slow firing, hard hitting and accurate submachine gun of BR3,with a power dynamic of being the worst in CQC in its BR, but the best in range.
Damage
MP35/I gets the damage of 9x25 Mauser cartridge, which is 7.9 at 10m
Any less damage would be mostly cosmetic with no effect, however 7.9 damage at 10m is always 3 shots to kill at 10m just like Thompson submachine guns.
Furthermore, the damage drop of submachine guns at range of 100m are
9mm Parabellum: ~42% (for example MP40 damage at, 10m: 7.0 100m: 4.0)
45.acp: ~33% (for example M1A1 Tommy damage at, 10m: 8.3 100m: 5.5)
At the moment 9x25 Mauser shares the same damage drop as 9x19 parabellum which is not very realistic considering that the Mauser round has 10% more muzzle velocity and energy, thus it should get its own damage drop percentage, around 36-38%
Reload
The MP35/I needs a much quicker reload, its magazine is not impressive at all for its BR and most of BR3 SMGs reload really quick (usually between 2.1-2.5s) but M1928A1 Thompson does in 1.5s so the MP35/I should get the quickest reload the animation allows (please make it faster than 2.2s, the current 2.9s is too long for BR3)
Recoil and dispersion
For the MP35/I to be worthy in long ranges, it needs low recoil and good dispersion.
Considering that Germany already has ZK-383 with godly dispersion (0.57) the MP35/I needs at least 0.60 dispersion to be worthy (small buff, its now 0.65 max upgraded)
As well as better recoil, which should be slightly higher than that of the MP40.
Thank you for your time and attention
