MP35/I buff, but it stays BR3

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Already said uragan to br 3 is noted, besides germany doesn’t only play against the ussr, they play against the US too, so if you buff the fnab to 800 and keep it in br 2 now you get both factions that will complain about it since it’ll instantly be the best gun in br 2

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exactly!
How dare you @Dregomz dare to fight back against M1A1 Thompson spam?!?

Irony post, PPS-43, Uragan and M1A1 Thompson belong in BR3.

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all right didn’t see that, i hope M21/28 will also get put to BR3 so Soviets could have some variety in smgs

i know but Americans already got much more powerful M1A1 with 8.2 dmg and 690 rpm. What kind of German gun has such power? None.

There is also power creeping Tommy 7.63 with 810 rpm and 6.8 dmg. Which is not fine at all at BR2.

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So you now have two overpowered smgs for USA while not a single powerful smg on the German side, they don’t even have smg that could rival vs PPS-42 + 43.

If anything it’s Americans that get the best gun at BR2 and i don’t see them complaing they are loving their bias just like soviets do. You only see beat down dogs that are germans complaing about unfair treatment. Body armor is also a massive issue as it cuts your smg dmg by a third.

And that is a valid reason to overtune the weapons used by the USSR?
And PPS 43 was busted since merge launch but who cares?
It is clear that DF does not.

PPS-42 is better as it has superior accuracy you don’t need 800rpm as Germany has pathetic 570-630 rpm for their TT weapons only Suomi, MP18 and mp719(r) have higher rof but you have to pay :money_mouth_face: :credit_card:

German smgs are a sad joke. 2 hit kill is only happening at first 14m for Mp40 and vs body armor it’s never a 2hk but 3hk

That is not the point here.
The point was that euty said that 800 rpm would automaticly be BR 3/4.

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He probably meant it “800 rpm at base” which is just funny as they can just set it at 50 rpm below that value for soviets and put it at br2 anyway to screw Germany over. And that’s what they did with Uragan. It’s a contradiction for what he just said about Uragan and that 800rpm as they want to put it to BR3 after a complaint (a least that’s why i just understood)

M1 Thompson which is worse than M21/28 should be moved first to BR3… But in my opinion its reasonable on BR4 as of now.

There are many other SMGs USSR could get, such as Tallinn Arsenal M23 or just move PPS-43 and Uragan up in BR…

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I’m just talking from Russian perspective i’ve got them from Stalingrad campaign and they are pretty mediocre at BR4, at BR3 Russia has zero smg variety so it could be a cool alternative to overpowered PPSh-41 box

why does everything always have to be powercreeped?
M21/28 Thompson is the third best SMG on BR4, after Tokyo Arsenal and Király.

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And yet it’s vastly inferior to PPSh-41 box due it’s recoil (even tho it has better than average dispersion)

PPS-43 is worse than 42 due it’s bad recoil, it should have 600rpm not imaginary 700rpm, while pps-42 should start with 500rpm. Uragan belongs at BR3 with M1A1 (30 rounds) and there should be added TT 20 round Thompson at BR2. Tommy 7.63 need to go up in BR too as it’s very similar to ZK-383.

I always said that PPS-43 should get the same recoil and moved to BR3…

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Then i wouldn’t be against that change it could be a cool gun at BR3 as right now it’s just only good at close range but we already have gun for exactly that and it’s called PPSh-41 Obrez

(How dare you give Tommies instead of shower pi… err… Sten guns or Lanchester to your Commonwealth men!?)

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Sorry, I was born in an Axis country, I only see Tommies armed with tommies.

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My TeaBoo heart weeps at this comment…

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Oh don’t worry I sometimes see Jerries using their toy gun

Gasp, uncultured cretin! I can’t believe that I was in the midst of a scoundrel this whole time. Your very presence sullies my essence, I must remove myself.

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The rate of fire sounds way faster than 540rpm and it seems akin to something in the range of 700-750rpm (im comparing the video to footage of a G36 mag dump side by side), which I guess with a 650rpm at base it would put it at the 750rpm mark once fully upgraded - conversely it could with something in the realm of 700rpm+ at base but with upgrades it would overdo it buff-wise