Maybe even with slightly stats on br2 
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And to compensate buyers of the set with the opportunity to use this unit without CD and the issuance of this beauty
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(The same should have been done with the hanomag)
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No the sameļ¼mp717 fire rate only 980 while ppsh41 is 1150ļ¼not the same.
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I think youāre right with the 4.5. Those kinda guns (PPSh41, cƶnders, LAD, Para/NKVD Tommies) all are too good/powercreep for BR4 but underwhelming for BR5 when up against StG/Fedorov/Hyde/AS.
I run them for variety but I also have 11 slots and multiple lineups and have space for them. If I was a post merge player/F2P, Iād only want to run what is BiS to aid my grind. My LAD squad is so much weaker than my Fed squad and itās not even close.
(Side note: MkB TT Iād argue is BR4 worthy. Sniper probs should stay 5 but maybe 4 is fine because Snipers canāt get vitality and are very limited.)
Edit: and this is a prefect time to once again push them to expand to BR6 with the current end of the tree being 6 with stuff like the FG1 and M2C being BR5 while FG2 and T20 are 6. The current power gap between 4 and end game 5 is still massive. G43 vs T20. Garand AT vs Type Hei Auto. SVT vs FG42.
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Youāre rightā¦ I forgot about slot numbersā¦ Iād probably also use the AK as well if limited 
Mmmh. I wonder. What if those get placed in br4, then br5 gets a +/-0 mm?
Just throwing guesses here.
If along with the MP 717(r) on the 4BR, you move the Soviet PPSh-41 from the 5BR to the 4BR, Iām all for it.
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Just buff MP717 accuracy and reload speed and it would be fine at BR4
I always considered Kiraly and PPSH equal rivals if you ignore the fact that Kiraly is hard to control, however I am surprised Kiralies ludicrously fast reload speed hasnāt been addressed yet despite the lowering to BR4- that was the main thing that made it special compared to the other BR5 guns.
Since Kiraly wasnāt nerfed, I can totally see PPSH being lowered to BR4 - I am well aware that PPSH is the ultimate noob gun, as in bullet hose and zero recoil and huge magazine, but just because its much easier to use than Kiraly, shouldnāt mean automatically its the better gun.
The only SMGs that should stay BR5 are the ones with 100 rounds, and honestly they should get accuracy buffs
The NKVD Thompson isnt amazing, but its accurate enough, and the 100 rounds, to be āsemi-viableā
Conders accuracy buff would be good
LAD is trash, but its known as a funny meme trash gun, so its fine xd
PPSh-41 is about the closest (drum mag version) to being viable in BR5, but it would need the 0.21 accuracy of the box mag version to be good
You lost me, what ? The kiraly is an absolute dream of a weapon to shoot. 16 Vertical recoil and 6 horizontal is amazing.
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well it kicks more than other SMGs - which isnt much in my mind, but I can imagine people preferring PPSh over it
Iāll assent on the premise that this would eventually lead to all drum SMGs being put into BR 4, and BR 5 becoming the exclusive domain of assault rifles.
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Itās anything but awesome, it got downtiered for a good reason.
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Im sorry, 16 vertical is nothing, youāre just a bot
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I like to use the suomi and these smgs too just cos.
I too think there should be a BR seperation between top end SMGs and Assault rifles (and have all along)ā¦changing of the guard
BR Ā±0 would help (Keep each BR accountable)
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Lower recoil is still lower recoil, and it feels nicer to handle and shoot. Just because you donāt appreciate that or understand preferences, doesnāt mean you can call others bots. Tell it to the rest of your clan too. I was in a match with one of your players and he would not stop abusing our team just because we werenāt try-harding and losing the match.
Maybe if clans treated ordinary players nicer, we wouldnāt loathe you as much.
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Enlisted is one of the easiest games on the market. Being bad at this game is hilarious. The game has no recoil.
You were going to loathe us anyway, just because we are good 
Clan guy and doesnāt understand basic things as a recoil. The longer you shoot the more unbearable Kiraly will be while MP-717(r) can burst for longer and keep itās accuracy for longer especially since it also has lower horizontal recoil.