Mp-41

I’ll keep this short. The MP-41 is by far and away the most ridiculously powerful weapon in the game at this present moment and needs immediate adjustment.

This morning, I bought the MP-41 squadron after playing numerous games with the PPK squadron. The PPK, whilst premium, is weaker in terms of damage output and horizontal recoil control than even the German MP-28. I played three games with the MP-41 and within each game I was cleaning up whole squads of people in one spray whilst only landing shots on the body. With the PPK, I would’ve been lucky to even kill half a squad with all headshots.

The damage values and recoil control on the MP-41 are skewed horribly, and if it only takes a person a mere handful of games to realise this then it needs to be fixed. Either reduce the damage and increase the recoil, or improve the damage and recoil characteristics of the PPK.

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Idk about changing the damage per bullet, but something really should be done to bring it in line with the other MPs. Even then the MPs are much stronger than the PPK and the PPDs outside of point blank ranges thanks to the PPDs sheer DPS. Though the MPs can more than make up for that by just aiming for upper chest and heads which is easily done thanks to the lack of any real kick they have and the lower rate of fire.

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Just give the mp41 more horizontal recoil since it has none and maybe take away some of the damage it does.

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There is a pretty simple fix, just make it so it has about the same horizontal recoil as other mp’s. The PPK is a bit harder to balance since its the only medium range smg to Russians get. Maybe boost the rate of fire so it fits in line with the whole brrt style of Russian smgs?

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I disagree. Soviets get PPD with drum - which is by far the most dominating SMG in game. Germans get really gimpy personal weapons in general. MP-41 is the only good thing they have. I say it’s probably fine. In my opinion.

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This right here.

PPK is atleast unique from other SMGs that Soviet faction has. MP-41 falls in line with every other German SMG. The only advantage is the recoil. Once it gets the same recoil as the rest, it’s MP-40 with a different name. Imo German premium squad should get an SMG with high RoF and recoil to boot.

You are joking, right?
Do you even realize what MP-41 did to the balance of this game? A lot of Soviet players moved to playing Germany because they were so disappointed with their weapons which made germany a dominant alpha male. I always win when playing Germans even if I put little to no effort in the game but when playing Russia, I could get 140 kills and still loose

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I think MP-28 which is german starter SMG is better than PPK. The main issue is that MP-41 was a legit mass produced weapon while the PPK was only made to be a cheap weapon made in rush to fill the lack of automatic weapons people’s militia had. You can get more kills if you spam fire a TT-33 at the enemy. PPK should have been a starter weapon for soviets instead of PPD with box and premium weapon could have been a land lease Thompson gun

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Devs should just come out and say what the direction of premium squads and their weapons are for the future if they are not going to update the game for a while. Same goes for weapon balance. Just a message saying they are looking in to it would be thoroughly appreciated.

We go on about this every single day. There’s 5 different threads all for the same thing and none them seem to be reaching any sort of conclusion on the issue.

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Plus none ever get feedback from the devs as well

Cheap doesn’t necessarily mean bad, especially where SMGs are concerned.
The PPSh is cheaper than the PPD and the PPS is cheaper than the PPSh

The PPK is still confusing, I mistook it for a PPS when I first saw it.

You are absolutely right but most legendary cheap designs were made by a team of ingeneers supported by the government. To design a good and cheap weapon, it took them days or even months. PPK was made by a guy named Korovin (more known for his pistol TK). Korovin designed this rifle in a rush so people militia can have an automatic weapon to defend the tula arms factory. Korovin SMG was never tested or approved by the government, it was a very simple automatic pistol

Edit: PPK was not a bad weapon for what it was but it does not belong in the same class as the much more sophisticated MP-41

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I think the devs need to remove the Horizontal Recoil Reduction perk from Enlisted and let us have a month to test the MP-41 extensively.

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The perk only kicks in if you’re not moving. Firing while moving is still just as accurate lmao.

Just saying that the perk should go, MP-41 does need some more recoil in my opinion too.

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Yeah I get ya, I was just pointing out that the difference it makes really isn’t much, sorry. It actually really helps with the PPK.

Oh no worries my man. Of course it’ll make a crazy difference with the PPK, that gun has almost no recoil as it is.

At level 11 IIRC - that’s a long time to wait…

And the only gun that compares to the MP-41 for germany is the MP-40 which unlocks at the same level

how is that relevant - :roll_eyes: they already have the MP-41, which compares very well to the MP41!! :rofl: