Move MKb 42(H) ---> BR IV

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Introduction

Read this first. I’m not an idiot or inconsiderate. If you don’t agree, don’t harass me in the comments. I main all factions and write this from a non-biased point of view. If you support the suggestion (or don’t), feel free to add constructive feedback(1) instead, or like if you have nothing to add.

Proof

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Disclaimer

Yes, I understand that the StG 45(M) is a premium weapon, and most premiums are generally 1 BR below their tech tree counterpart. However, the StG 45(M), while not so different statistically, is still a completely different gun in aesthetics and general handling. Plus, it’s a premium squad, meaning you have an engineer that has access to all buildables and 2x XP.

(1) I mention this because Germany / Soviet buffs are always a contentious and heated issue, and I don’t want / need meaningless namecalls or abuse directed at me or others.

Reasoning

There are very few differences between the two. At least, according to ingame stats. The StG 45(M) fires ever so slightly slower at 450rpm vs 500rpm, however, boasts slightly better recoil and accuracy. I feel since they are basically the same gun, it wouldn’t hurt to downtier the MKb 42(H) down to BR IV.

It offers a nice medium then between the faster firing, less accurate and (slightly) less damaging Kiraly 39M, and the slower firing, more accurate, (slightly) higher damaging MKb 42(H). If the Commies want to, you could downtier the AS-44 since literally nobody uses it next to the Fedorov.

Which is the same issue with the MKb vs the MP 43 and StG 44. Compared to those 2, it has literally nothing of merit. It’s the same deal with the AS 44 and Browning M1918. Why use those guns when the better variants / contemporaries exist?

Conclusion

I hope everyone (or mostly everyone, mainly helpers / mods) agree with this suggestion. I feel it wouldn’t disrupt game balance at all, and would give a basically useless weapon some new life.

Appendix

MKb 42(H)

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StG 45(M)

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The Mkb 42(H), along with the StG 45 and the Horn all to level four.

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And the (W)

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Question, in the MKb 42(H) picture, does the stats show the fully upgraded version?

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No. Surprisingly, both are showing non-upgraded stats. When fully upgraded, both have 9.6 damage, better accuracy, less recoil, but unchanged RPM.

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No, it’s good where it is.

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What’s your reasoning behind it? I feel it’s too overshadowed by its StG contemporaries and fits in closer to the StG 45(M).

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the fact that it’s a walk-through weapon. Use a better weapon if you can.
If you want to play specifically with this, take it and play.

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That’s the point though. Walk-through weapons shouldn’t realistically exist. Of course some will be more popular than others, but each should have a fair chance of being selected. The MKb 42(H) doesn’t.

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I disagree, cause once you get thw MP-43 and STG 44 it’s pointless to use the MKb-42, in br 4, you can choose to use either the Kiraly 39M or the MKb-42

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This machine is too strong for BR4 - that’s a fact. Now it’s in its place. At the beginning the weapon is worse, then better, at the end the best. What’s wrong with that?

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Ok. In that case I want PPD 34/38 on BR3. as it is pointless on BR4 after getting PPD 40.

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mkb42 W too, or buff it, its a sexy gun

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I would actually say it’s comparable to the Kiraly, if not worse. 8.0 damage and 500 rpm does not equal 6.6 damage and 760 rpm. The Kiraly will completely out do it in CQC, whereas it will do better at mid range combat.

The exact same reason why the m1918 is in BR III. Laziness. 3 BARs do not belong in the same BR, more or less foldered. The 1918 variant should be moved to BR II.

Yet another stupid change by the Devs no one asked for. However, one handles considerably better than the other, reloads quicker, and fires faster. They should realistically be foldered, like the Thompson variants, the two m1918 variants, and the MP43 and StG 44.

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If you look closely at the competitors, you will find that MKb has no analogues. Moreover, the USSR and the USA do not have weapons for shooting at medium range. I am talking about weapons for the assault soldier, of course.
You offer obvious advantages.

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Adding a bayonet might be a good start , both MKB(W) and (H) variant in game have bayonet lug for bayonet, though on a side note MKB 42(H) had few variants whiteout bayonet lug (Early prototype variants ) which could be a fun event squad

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what would be fun about an event squad being a downgrade of a tech tree gun

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The M1928A1 can be moved down to BR IV (high damage, high-capacity SMG) and the Soviets already have the PPDs which are high capacity, high fire rate weapons. I think they’re well and truly good matches.

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All this is for close combat. Either little damage, or low bullet speed.

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Early prototypes were not the same as MKB 42(H) while looking like the normal MKB 42(H) some used different springs(meaning devs can give different firerate)

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