Move IL-10 To BR3

BF 110 C7
IL10

Just compare the IL10’s stats with the BF 110 C7. Speed and maneuverability are much worse. Both have equal bombs. The C7 has better frontal armament and the IL10 has a better tail gun. The IL10’s better armor can somewhat compensate for its poor speed and maneuverability. I have no idea why it’s in BR5. It’s not even a BR4 aircraft.

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A huge issue with BRs is that they were based on old campaign system progression rather than their actual power which stretched some weapons and vehicles to impossible BRs.
At the start of the merge Beretta 38/42 was BR4 and Pps-42 was BR2 even though Pps-42 has always been the better weapon.

While weapons have been slowly moved to their correct place, most aircraft remain in odd places because most people dont play aircraft or even if they do its hard to compare aircraft since the power difference is not as massive between BRs. Its skill that matters more in dogfights rather than the machine and you can easily take a BR or 2 lower aircraft and still win most dogfights.
For example I kept using LA-7 until jet power update and I never realised that I flew an aircraft that was a BR below the specs of enemy planes until I checked the stats and compared.
If I had not checked the stats I would still think that LA-7 is as strong as bf-109 K-4 since I have shoot down so many of those.

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Yes, I shot down dozens of jets with the mustang. It’s very enjoyable.
I hope they slowly put the planes back in the right place. Many BFs, Soviet fighters, etc, are in the wrong place.

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La 7 is a bit better G.55 its on the level of Ki-61-II Otsu Kai and Bf 109 G-6 and the P-63 really is BR III plane … many planes to this day in all factions need BR adjustments.

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Yes, I believe all these planes (La7, G55, BF 109 G-6, Otsu) should be BR3. What is that one? A premium plane?

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Well they are very close in performance so they are BR III/BR IV planes but the powercreep put them in a very strange position and the P-63 is 100% BR III plane. Yeah the p -63 is soviet premium that is BR IV but its worse then the BR III US and Japanese plane.

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IL-10 such a shit. BR3 maybe right.

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I am not a pilot main - but I honestly wonder why no one is talking about BR2 IL2.

Like they moved that one BF110 with rockets to BR4 - but they keep IL2 in BR2? Both planes seem kinda similar to me.

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Well I never fly it. It flies like a brick! the small bombs, very weak rockets, and very bad maneuver make it a BR2.
And about that BF 110. It’s a very good plane and those rockets are the best rockets in the game! But I believe it should stay in BR3, because it doesn’t have bombs and that’s a huge weakness!

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BF110 was fine on BR III but its definitely not a BR II IL 2 there is very big difference in rockets this is like comparing 50 kg bombs with 200 kg bombs :smiley:

The airplane performance itself is not good.
It is also because GE has better rocket performance.
Currently, the WfR G.21 and Type 5 No.6 Mod.9 have the best firepower per rocket.
both rockets have 9.5kg and 10kg TNT, but RBS-82 have only 0.48 kg TNT

Honestly, it’s a shame that the BF110 has been changed to BR4, but GE got the Fw A-8 BR3 instead.
Perhaps if both were BR3, GE’s air power would be too powerful.

the BF 110 has no right to be BR4, its BR3 completely, as for the IL-2 at BR2, its popular for a reason, its really tanky, especially since a lot of the guns you face are lighter machine guns. Its also got good guns and can dogfight decently.

The only reason I dont use the IL-2 and BR2 is because the Su-2 is so much better, its mental how broken that plane is.

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Well, if you bothered to read the entire text, I didn’t say anything else. :joy:

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And I was concurring you titwit.

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There’s no need to get angry so quickly. :joy:

Id say anyone that doesnt realise the IL 2 1941 is S tier, is still relatively new in the flying game

Rookie pilots give feed back that make wrong calls, like the bf110 G-2 being too dangerous or IL 2s being bad when they are far more destructive



You cant just look at the stats on planes, stat cards only tell you optimal conditions at unstated altitudes, or max sustained …

it tells you nothing of high speed, low speed control or energy bleed…you need experience

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Well, this thread was about the IL 10!
And I’m not a man who’s always in the sky, but I have nearly 15,000 kill on airplanes.
About IL2, well I hate planes that fly like bricks, not that they are bad, but I hate them. IL10 flies much smoother, but hey its armament is only two 250kg bombs. And statistics aside, I still think BF 110 is much better to fly! Also a few minutes of video is not a strong argument. I can hunt down a bunch of meteors for you with IAR 81C, so let’s bring meteors to BR2. XD

There are bricks and then there are bricks.

IL 2S are the kind that can largely be negated by pilot management (not always, 2 on 1s…fast respawns). They bleed speed fast if you try to sustained turns, but they are nimble as hell for your first couple of high speed turns…you will end most fights, even against fighters in one turn, then reset your energy.

…a real brick is something like a Pe 2/3, barely responds to control input at high or low airspeed…takes an age to turn in all situations

BF110 do feel pleasant to fly…but as pleasant as it “feels”…it will lose in nearly every entanglement short of a pe 2/3, head on or bush wack…how good it feels has little to do the reality of its situation

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Yes, IL2 will captivate you with the first two very fast turns, but then it will make you cry. XD
But anyway, this thread is not about IL2 or BF 110 G2 (and to avoid any misunderstanding, as I said earlier in your thread, I agree with returning G2 to BR3).

I’ve flown it a lot, it may not be very good at dogfights, but it’s still good (it’s not a fighter after all), it also performs very well in bombing, I love planes with their bombs right under the cabin.