Rifles like SVT-40, G43, ZH-29, Johnson M1941 and Type 4. They don’t offer enough over BR3 counterparts to really be pitted against autorifles, and serve only as a stopgap. There is a gap between BR3 and BR5 in terms of Japanese MGs anyway, it’s not like it matters that much that there won’t be tech tree BR4 rifles.
Instead rifles with high capacity magazines could fill in this gap in the future, similar to battlepass SVT-40/Farquar-Hill/Mondragon, something like SVTs with experimental magazines, semi-auto only AVS-36, ZH-29 with ZB-26 magazine, and so on.
how about removing BR4 cause it is useless tier cause it is constantly pitted against BR5. if you are going to compare every BR4 weapon to BR5 then you wont have anything left there…
btw only rifle that i would agree to currently be on BR3 is type 4 cause japan doesnt have any decent SA rifle on BR3.
All I’m saying is 30-06 out of a 24” barrel is 30-06 out of a 24” barrel. Regardless of if it’s a bolt action or a semi auto. One shouldn’t be a 1 hit kill and the other take up to 4 shots just to finally finish a dude
Type 4 is basically Garand unless the stats are completely off.
SVT40 is just faster SVT38.
Johnson is a better G41.
ZH-29 and G43 are actually better than G41, so they are fine depending on the BR of both SVTs.
But I also agree with rob. Currently BR4 sucks as standalone because they mostly just face BR5 junk.
I really don’t care what they do with level 4 since I use so few level 4 weapons, however they need to keep my level 3 allies out of any level 5 match. However, as far as I am concerned, there is not much difference between level 3 and level 4, but both are a clear drop off from level 5. The only level 4 weapons I incorporate are the German Gehwer 43 sniper rifle, the level 4 and I use the Johnson 1941 as my radiomen back up guns. I do like the Johnson, but would rather use it be used in a BR3/4 match.
Majority of BR3 semis do have artificially lowered dmg in comparison to theirs BR4 counterparts.
And there are other significant differences (like stripper clip reload vs mag reload in most cases)
This suggestion is completely wrong. It would make the current BR3 semis obsolete. While BR3 under current MM would still have a chance to face BR5. (And in fact, this chance would increase as there would be even less incentive to play BR4 lineups).
The better way is to overall nerf BR5 SF Rifles to decrease gap between BR4 semis and BR5 SF Rifles.
What issue would occur if they now sit at BR3?
At least they wont face superior SFs anymore and despite their vastly superior dmg of up to 1.4dmg I doubt they will make BR2 harder since the M1G already does 15.3dmg and I see no German or Jap complaining about OP M1 Garand so far
One easy way to do this is folder a lot of things especially with a Germans and just cut everything down to tier 3. 1 and 2 would become the Tier 1, then 3 and 4 would become the new Tier 2 and 5 would become the new 3.
Better yet for less effort they can add equipment that’s needed for each faction filling the baron holes in the tech tree. Like Japan’s aforementioned BR4 LMG, as well as the planes for their mid tiers that have been missing for so long. Just because something has a single item, don’t mean it’s the only viable option to add and that tier is done.
There’s plenty of other things they can add, look at the Soviets, they are missing a decent BR II LMG That’s not the garbage Madson as well as another decent but not overpowered BR I and possibly BR III SMG. This is a further example of filling the trees where it’s needed. Not expecting everyone to look like the German tech tree but having at least two items per category for every teir would be nice.
Also the first BAR has no advantages over any other LMG at its tier so it should be downgraded to BR II. It really doesn’t outperform the German 20 rounders, or the Japanese ones. The other BARs are okay to keep in BR III.
The kirkaly should also be looked at for being lowered from V to IV. I personally feel with a slight nerf (just a hair to make sure it’s in line with BR IV) it would be perfect or just a general buff to make it worthy of BR V. It sits in a weird gray area where it really doesn’t belong in either tier, At least in my opinion.
The Germans should get the Solothurn S-18 That’s been sitting in the editor forever just rusting away (Obvious BR II AT). Because that would be a big buff to their anti-tank early game.
The Allies getting their Ithaca shotgun back that was removed But is still present in the editor, (obvious BR III Shotgun).
Japan and Allies getting BR4 anti-tank. Because existing AT weapons are completely ineffective at BR5 unless you’re using a tank or a plane while Fighting in the Pacific (both factions).
Japan finally getting another mortar because the mortar they have is completely useless. And they Are the only faction that has a tier one mortar and not a tier 3/4 like everyone else.
These are not the only cases but they’re the first ones that come to mind.
But to end this little rant? Not sure you can call it that lol. They don’t really need to be messed with and pushed to a lower tier The devs didn’t want to choose less tiers, This was especially apparent when we were looking at version one of the tech tree where there was 10 battle ratings. If anything those rifles need a little bit of a buff. The remaining equipment as I stated earlier within this post needs to be introduced or reintroduced.
This is actually my only concern regarding moving things to BR3.
Currently the BR1-2 has somewhat delicate balance between BA / smg
( obv SA’s there aint even worth using )
Point being, not much fan of moving anything from higher BR to BR3 due to this issue.
Obv best solution would be locking br1-2 but that aint going to happen.
If the BR1-2 would be locked, it would leave plenty of room to even buff SA’s to be more competent against higher tier SF rifles.
And would be somewhat logical upgrade, BA - SA - SF.
However, as far as I am concerned, there is not much difference between level 3 and level 4, but both are a clear drop off from level 5. The only level 4 weapons I incorporate are the German Gehwer 43 sniper rifle, the level 4 and I use the Johnson 1941 as my radiomen back up guns. I do like the Johnson, but would rather use it be used in a BR3/4 match.