If they make semi autos as accurate as bolt actions and give them a faster rate of fire, then I can see them being valid in BR4, however right now I will pick a BR1 SMG over a BR4 semi auto without question.
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If you disagree thats fine but there is no point talking bullshit for no reason
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They’re fine as BR4 at least in my opinion
I was about to disagree with you, but iirc the Type 4 has dual clip reloads so yeah, I think it should be BR3.
I was gonna say keep the Type 4 in BR4 and buff the Type Otsu’s damage to ~20, which is kinda drastic, but fair considering its magazine count
I don’t play BR4 so Idk if that’s true, but I see a lot of BR4 Panthers in BR3 and they seem to dominate my games. So BR4 does have a purpose.
Although its small arms are only a mediocre buff compared to BR3, its tanks are a significant one.
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I feel like each faction shines at some BRs while somewhat sucks at others.
BR4 Panthers are immortal to BR3 vehicles while rival even BR5 tanks, so Tankers on the German side do naturally play BR4.
Soviets have very strong BR3 Tanks, Allies have only decent tanks at BR2 and BR5 so you see pilots more often than tankers.
I for example really like to play German BR1 - Panzer III J has poor turret rotation speed, but other than that is pretty much a BR2 tank.
BR1 and BR4 players exist, and thanks to the soft rule, those inbetween matches are not impossible to encounter.
BR3 Shermans are not that bad though.
the trouble is not BR4 and BR3 is not the problem but in BR4 relation to BR5
BR5 weapons should be moved to BR6 and a new true BR5 created to take its place
BR1 to BR 2 gap is hard but not impossible
yes you add SMG’s and MG’s
BR2 to BR3 you add SA Rifle
BR3 to BR4 fits
BR4 to BR5 is broken
you have SF rifle, AR, Thomsons with 50 rounds and the most broken BP weapons you can imagine including a SMG with 150 rounds
BR4 to BR5 feels more like BR4 to BR6
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Personally I support removing BR IV, get rid of it and make the current BR V be BR IV.
Four tiers is enough. The current tier IV in Enlisted is like BR 2.7 and 3.0 in War Thunder.
In War Thunder there’s only 1 or 2 tanks of those BRs in each tree so never enough for a full lineup. If you use it in a lower BR like 2.3 it drags you up to 3.3 or even 3.7 with 2.0 tanks. Likewise if you play 3.3 well why bother with a 2.7 tank that won’t survive?
This is what we see with Enlisted with as has been mentioned weapons like the M1941 Johnson. The M1941 was in fact another contender for the place of the M1 Garand and I wouldnt say is any more powerful (2 extra rounds is hardly justification for another whole tier against assault rifles).
This would also assist in filling the tech trees better rather than having some tiers with lots of weapons and others with barely any, or in the case of Japan where higher tiers are almost all prototypes (some of which were never more than drawings)
I agree, but I’m just stating a fact.
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again (and probably until I’m blue in the face):
BRI-II
BRIII-IV
BR-V
I’m surprised it’s not a thing yet. Here’s hoping…
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I can agree with this. I am curious why BR II HAS To be possible to be put against BR III and likewise BR III especially why does BR III HAVE to be put against Br IV AND V??
Devs and some players dont seem to understand higher rank tanks are much harder to kill, sometimes straight up impossible. You’re also against more experienced players where everyone has automatic weapons. Thats not a skill issue, thats just a cold hard fact.
Even in BR II, theres a damn good reason you dont try and take a house with a bolt action rifle (if I have a rifle Ill swap to pistol). So why on earth is one expected to fight fully auto weapons for entire squads with a bolt action rifle??
Or tanks like Panthers and T 34s with Grb and crappy bazooka??
“Oh but they can be killed” well yeah but you can kill someone with a musket, doesnt mean we should expect guys with muskets to fight guys with M16s.
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this has to be a troll, BR5 so out class BR3 as to make them a joke
that is just the guns, the 5 tanks so outclass 3 they might as well have a forcefield
I’m not a troll. I’m serious. Get rid of pointless BR IV, and lock the new BR IV (previously BR V) to only fight BR IV.
That’s so bad idea for so many reasons.
Here is few of them:
- sealclubbers playing BR2 would never have to fear to play against something more powerful (BR3), yet they would always have chance to just farm underequipped newbies.
- playing BR3 would mean to play voluntary in disadvantage.
It would only relocate current problem that BR4 is having to BR3. Nothing else. - you could just introduce only 3 BRs, as there would be basically no real difference between BR1 and BR2, BR3 and BR4.
Effectively merging current 5 BRs into just 3 BRs.
That’s not a good way in case. And I say that from the perspective of someone who likes to play BR4. Until ±0 MM is implemented, isolating only BR5 makes literally no sense and would just relocate the problem elsewhere.
I still think BR 4 has a place (so it can decompress BR 5 a bit more which has Alot of redundant gear like smgs)
If BR 5 is made an Island (Can only face itself),
AND/OR
you could move some smgs to BR 4 (because BR 5 assault rifles take over) plus some of the “lesser” assault rifles…
or you could do it by making a BR 6…
Post pen is horrible
Its really not though with the new match making. Br 3 is 2-4. Which feels really nice. Much better experience now than playing br 5
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