Move all 10-shot BR 4 Semi-auto Rifles to BR 3

BR 1 now has hard MM protection against BR 3.

I don’t see why BR 4 SA rifles have to stay in that BR when the only functional differences between BR 3 and BR 4 rifles merely addresses the flaws that existed in BR 3 rifles.

The gap between 10-shot SA rifles and automatic rifles is too big for them to be forced to fight BR 5.

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Because BR2.

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So the argument i br5 sf are to strong for sa br4 so move them to br3
Won’t that just make br3 sa useless when you have have a better choice
You know moving the problem down the road
If will also mean br2 rifles having to face form br4 so no just no
Why you would have bolt action ten shot fighting sa ten shots
Given a sa can down in one shot you would need to make bolts a one shot kill

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BR4 has always been an awkward battle rating level. Hardly anyone is willing to play at this level. In fact, nobody wants to engage in battles with BR5 players while being at BR4. I think its only significance is to serve as a buffer zone between BR3 and BR5.

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yeah the johnson rifle would absolutely smash br2, how would they ever survive, its not like br2 has to put up with a 20 round winchester 1907 or a 15 round japanese battlepass rifle hahahaha

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Shield Type Hei Auto is Br4. Therefore, also put other SFs in BR4 because of that.

limited weapons
its like saying this is bad lets make it worse
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just add napalm

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Shield type hei is not a SF rifle, it is classified as a machine gun with movement penalties and etc, not a good comparison :slight_smile:

What’s the performance gap between an SVT-38 in BR 3 and a Johnson/G43/Type 4?

That… Is already a thing.

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BR3 semi-autos have 14.4 damage (max upgraded) while BR4 has 15.3 except for Garand which has 15.3 but has only 8 rounds instead of 10 like SVT-38 or G41.

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the johnson rifle should just be br3 though, it feels like the g41 and only has 2 more bullets than the garand in exchange for gross ironsights and no bayonet

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Honestly my solution to the power gap between br4 and br5 is to just have a hard matchmaking rule that forces BR5 to only fight BR5

It would be a lot more fair if BR4 could only fight BR4 and BR3

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And… How is that substantially any different? Both BR 3 and BR 4 SA rifles can oneshot even soldiers with vitality by default- Except against soviet soldiers with the funni armor cosmetic.

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Bold opinion: armaguerra beats German BR3 semis.

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In fact, some of the weapons in BR4 can be downgraded to BR3. For example, the G43. The division between BR3 and BR4 is not so clear and reasonable. (Is the Winchester M1907 really at the BR3 level in terms of performance?)

Bolt action do not one shot kill, a down is not a kill

BA rifles do have the potential to one hit kill.

Against enemies without vitality, you need 20 damage to guarantee a kill instead of down, 23.5 damage against enemies with the vitality perk.

However, this is only true so long as you only hit the upper half of a soldier.

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If you consistently aim low, BA rifle shots will often down instead of kill, or may even be shrugged off without downing the opponent. But at close range, and shooting at the upper body (including the arms), they can and will OHKO enemies with the vitality perk, and will down even flametroops with additional vitality and body armor equipped.

At ranges of 100m or further, most BA rifles lose their damage to only about 20 damage, but will still be sufficient to OHKO enemies without the vitality perk.

In short- BA rifles will only not OHKO if your aim is shit, or, more rarely, you’re shooting someone at long range with the vitality perk.

A literal skill issue.

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I’m sorry but calling anything but a head or neck shot shit is garbage,
Secondly while Wyatt warp needs to make a head neck shot
Sa bob downs you in one shot with a three round burst and moves on to you bot wiping out your squad
Then reloads and finishes you of
All while In prime semi auto range
It’s not that bad and right it’s that without an ammo advantage there ice skating up hill
If it’s a skill issue it means a ba has to have skill while a sa does not

That of course does not include sa br2 br3 what advantage do they have over a gun that shoots and reloads just as fast and has more ammo

They get to sealclub BR 1s.

The game has always been club or get clubbed.

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