More APC options (everyone but Germany)

Right now we have 1 premium APC armed with a gun, and 1 unarmed APC for each faction. I think that adding some armed ones and armored ones to the tech trees would help to give free-to-play players an option to bring an armed APC to the battle. I was specifically looking for half tracks and tracked vehicles, however I will also include wheeled vehicles that I believe fit as well.

The Soviets don’t have a ton, but there is enough to add some variety. First off, the M2A1. This would be similar to the premium M3A1 albeit slightly smaller.

The Universal Carrier was also given to the soviets. I did find a picture of one with a Dushka machine gun mounted on it, which is probably what it should have in game as well. It would make it unique compared to the allied Universal Carriers.

I couldn’t find many good Soviet made vehicles to put here. I found three half-tracks made by the soviet Zis-22, Zis-42, and Gaz-60. All of these seem to be conversions of existing trucks into half-tracks. I doubt these were armed and do not appear to armored. However these could be considered perhaps for a new type of mechanized engineer squad.

The US (and by extension western allies) have quite a few more by virtue of being far more countries.

I mentioned the Universal Carrier already and so lets just get that out of the way here. If the soviets get one then the allies should as well. There are a lot of little variations to choose from. They mounted Bren Guns, Boys-AT rifles, PIATs, a 2lb AT gun, M2 .50cal, 2-inch mortars. Really the devs are spoiled for choice here. The 2-inch mortar would be a unique thing to have, giving it a clear use case over something like an M5 halftrack or the LVT-4.

The M5 was a more heavily armored version of the M3 half-track that we already have as a Soviet Premium. It is a bit of a shame the Soviets have an American Half Track but the US doesn’t.

Another cool addition is the M20. This was an M8 Greyhound with the turret removed and replaced with a M2 machine gun and used for a variety of tasks including as an APC. The crews were also given a bazooka to engage against enemy armor. This is still a Greyhound chassis though, so not gonna be too hard to kill with any AT weapons.

The Stuart also received a similar treatment to the above M20. However I think that the Canadian Kangaroo’s would be a much more interesting option. You would have a similar agreement of .50 and .30 cals, with the difference being in the chassis options. The two big contenders here in my opinion are the Churchill and M7 Priest, both of which were used for Kangaroos.

Lastly is Japan. Japan only had 1 halftrack in WW2, the one we already have in the game. At most, they could do a rearmed version of it for the Tech-Tree assuming we won’t be able to customize vehicle load outs. The new version could use the Type 92, with about an increase of about 100 rounds per minute.

There are 2 options for a brand new Armed Japanese APCs. The Type 1 Ho-Ki and the Type 4 ka-Tsu. The type 1 was officially unarmed, however soldiers would often mount machine guns to them. In the bottom most picture on Wikipedia for it, it seems to be armed with a Type 3 or a Type 92 machine gun.

The Type 4 however was an amphibious troop carrier intended to be launched from a submarine. It carried 2 torpedoes and two 13mm Type 2 Machine guns. These were basically copies of the German MG 131s. The torpedoes would probably be unnecessary since we don’t have any big ships for them to be used on.

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but i want more m1 carbine, infact i want m1 carbine in every tt

No. No more Lend-Lease. The Soviets are being cut off

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They used the M2A1. Not saying it should but it can go into the Soviet tree. The Soviets do not fight the US, so I don’t see the problem. This isn’t a captured equipment situation either, the US sold these to the USSR. I would prefer other options, but the truth is the Soviet Union didn’t make many of their own APCs. I am not sure what you mean by RPG-1, but all I could find was an early rocket launcher which is not the topic of my post.

That’s just the M3 Lee modified to be an HMC

Yes, and then the Canadians took the 105mm gun out and used it as a transport.

If you noticed I also suggested a Soviet modification of the Universal Carrier as another option. The truth is that the Soviets didn’t appear to have developed any of their own APCs like the Allies or Axis did.

Well of course they didn’t. All of the steel they produced and were given went straight into T-34’s and KV-1’s, and later on IS’s and T-34-85’s. Their trucks, trains, food, boots and more all came from us giving them everything else they needed to transfer troops to, and keep troops alive on, the front lines

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I still think they should merge Riders and APC driver into 1 “Driver” class … give us Driver III. Then make it so we can have 3 TT, 1 event, and 1 premium option per faction.

Give us more options, even if not armed, or not armored, I’d be happy with it. Could also add 4x4 trucks with smaller capacity … this would make it a tactical decision as a 9 man squad may not fit in them.

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Germans with M1 carbine! Ja!

yes

They’d never be able to figure it out. The bullets aren’t in metric! We had to change to metric bullets later on to give ourselves a debuff and help the enemy. We didn’t want them to be both dead and confused

what apcs , the best apc option in my opiniion for axis faction was famous german halftrack with mg42 for f2p . but they made it premium :{ . idk why

Nah best APC is the M3 Halftrack hands down. Sexiest tracked vehicle to ever exist. Just look at that thing. It’s incredible! Cryin shame they haven’t added it yet

Looks like a truck made of funny metal.

I like univeral carrier more. The small size lets it fit inside many buildings ad the speed gives huge advantage. It doesnt make any sound like rallies do making it easy to hide. M3 halftrack would be better if the m2 browning could turn 360 degrees and do more damage

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always welcomed from me more apcs.

and all are fine additions for the allies.

however, i’d like to include few others such as:

m3 scout car ( both for soviets and allied )

gmc prestone 42
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Q-ford trucks for commonwealth
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and also, for germany.
dunno why you classed them out, but they too have more toys for people to play with:

like,
there’s the 250, which it’s a shorter verstion,

or, SdKfz 247 Ausf B

the opel blitz.

then… this thing:
the Leichter Radsnchneller Laffly W15T Gepanzerte Ausführung
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a proto

or, ww2 italian protos:
OIP

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not sure about the followings, but given the sdkfz 251/9, sure why not:

T48 for soviets

m3 gun motor carrier
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the sdkfz 251/22
OIP

and i’m sure there are more out there. etc

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The M3 Scout Car could be interesting. A faster, but less all terrain, vehicle compared to the M3 Halftrack. Could use one for speed on roads and one for all terrain, which can be handy on some custom maps

Edit (because it was flagged): Let’s see, no profanity. It’s on topic (APC). Hmm. Nope! Not breaking any rules here! Flagged for no reason at all, whatsoever. Other than someone is flagging every. Single. Post. I. Make.

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Dont forget that land lease was not only war material but also machining tools so in a way many of the T34 and etc. were a product of land lease until the soviet union could catch up and produce their own supply later in the war.

It’s not APC though, is it? It’s more like an armored car.

it was used like one.

sort of a " troop car ".

but i see your point.

( even… though i’d argue it wouldn’t be much different than using a tank destroyer such as the 251/9 as an “APC” :upside_down_face: . perhaps, better than that? for it’s intended role that is )

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Also i want the mercedez benz lg 3000 because it was in indiana jones

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From my very advanced and very scientific research on wikipedia, it was mailny a command vehicle.
If by any chance the new soldier class teased by the devs is some kind of commander/officer, this would be a nice follow up.