Matchmaking Pacific is a joke, someting needs to change

I was just looking forward to use my daily 100% bonus to advance my japanese campaign. I was then joined into a game were one point was allready lost and an all bot (or maybe new players which is pretty unlikely) against a US 50% general team. I played so many of those matches in the last days with the japanese side that im from now on quitting every single game that does not have the slightest ballance. I even stopped to care about my rank at all allready…

Dont get me wrong, i played Moskow as Axis many many times and i like the challenge alot! But Pacific as japanese is many useless equipment + teams with max 1-2 real players + maps and especially capture areas in favor of allies and their equipment. Camping with M13 hulldown out of the playable and bombable area for the whole match anyone?..

To get balanced matches back things need to change, maps design and equipment wise. First ideas maybe to clean out the japanese rifle tech tree. To make the LMGs playable. Or to give an actually playable tank instead of the joke that is the Ha-Go. Played it once and went back to Ta-Se. Of which i mostly suicide the crew to cycle through squads. And how about to allow the Ta-Se crew to actually duck when they are not driving or reloading… who came up with the idea to design it the current way in the first place…

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Would help a lot if you stuck around. I’m a Japanese Main serving the emperor like a loyal dog and sticking through each match. Maybe if less people with this mentality quit in the first moments we would have chance. XP is XP at the end of the day my friend ! BANZAIII!

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I have endured this challence until Level 13 so far, but the last days it became so bad :frowning:
All i want is a cool matches with lots of fighting. I dont mind loosing matches but the how is important. When you press tab and notice there is no chance at all for a cool match for the fifth time an i row you just start to leave…

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For Americans is not a fight, is a relaxing jungle hike since the game lets them stroll thru our defenses with no consequences.

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I wanted to play IJA at first because I love the Pacific Theater in WWII but it’s just so gall darn difficult to win anything as Axis.

One thing I notice is people constantly complain about how overpowered bots are, and I agree at times they can be incredibly frustrating, but people at the same time complain that they’re on an all-bot team, if they really were that awful to play against, shouldn’t the team with more bots be winning?

Or maybe bots just are terrible at prioritizing the objective

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It think the bot soldiers themself are actually ok. But the player bot AI that decides where to go and what to do is close to useless, especially with the map designs in pacific. Many bots end with like 2-3 kills for a whole match.

Yeah I can definitely agree with that. A redesign of squad AI would do wonders for the game.

I only hope the developers happen to actually read the english forum.

Here’s a thought, the Russian forum is pretty active which would imply that the Russian playerbase is much larger than NA ones. Has anyone fried switching to European servers to see if things are a little better there?

All acording to stalins plans lol

People started with Japan (Axis) overall, around 80% playerbase i guess.
Some of those people maxed out campaigns, but most of them don’t.
Then most people that were playing Axis switched to Allied side, some that maxed out entire campaign (only few %), and some that were pissed of overall equipment difference.
THEN most new players tried both side and choose Allied side becouse they have better starting equipment and overall possible unlocks in the long run, just better.
ALSO most people that maxed out this campaign (both sides) choose to stay on Allied side becouse their gear is much more interesting and better overall.

Comparison of the equipment in this campaign:

  • Springfield 1903 vs 38 Carabine: I don’t like any of them, this is a matter of preference.
  • Springfield 1903A1 USMC vs 38 Rifle: Arisaka is better for me in this comparison, i prefer standard Springfield over A1.
  • Springfield 1903A3 vs Arisaka 97: Also a matter of preference, some would prefer Springfield, some Arisaka.
  • M13 vs Ta-Se: The difference here is INCREDIBLY HUGE, Ta-Se is utter shit that you can snipe entire crew with Springfield from the front, M13 have like 20 times better density of fire even with fast overheating, most gunes overpen M13 in this game which results in no damage on successful hits. Also Ta-Se struggles with M2A4 in some angles and with M3 overall, where M13 only struggles vs Ka-Chi, as any other US vehicle there. Besides fucking M13 have 300 rounds magazines and is capable of penetreting tanks and most obstacles, it’s the best all-purpose vehicle in this campaign.
  • Reising vs S-100: both sucks in my taste, since small buff they are quite similiar overall.
  • Enfield P14 vs Type 1: I would prefer Enfield any time to this rifle.
  • SOC-1 vs E13A1: Both are extremly fragile, SOC-1 have better AA capabilities due to machinegun, where E13A1 is defencless with 2xtimes better payload.
  • Boys vs Type 97 ATR: Japan have much better ATR rifle, except both ATR struggles sometime but this is game problem with hit indication and overpenetration.
  • M3 Grease Gun vs Type 100 (early): M3 is a mile better gun, Type 100 sucks compared to M3
  • BAR 1918 vs Type 11 LMG: BAR is much better rifle, they are not even comparable, Type 11 sucks extremly here, I stay away from this rifle becouse of terrible spread that happens usually even when you one tap it. I find BAR best small arm for entire campaign, especially A2 version.
  • 2-Inch vs Type 98: They are the same.
  • M2A4 v Ha-Go: I own both of them, Ha-Go is one of the worst tanks in the game and a joke overall compared to M2A4. Ha-Go don’t have usable MG from commander position, besides this MG sucks and have 17 clips in mags xD, meanwhile M2A4 have 5x 7.62 MGs, it’s a meat grinder! Ha-Go have no armor at all with this 6mm frontal, M2A4 have a bit better armor, that is capable to reflect ATR shots sometimes. Ha-Go 37mm gun is worse than M5 37mm, it has much worse trajectory, but still both those tanks can pen each other.
  • M1 Carabine v Type Hei Rifle: Hei rifle sucks especially with those 5rounds clips. M1 Carabine is much better weapon, i prefer it over M1 Garand in Normandy. It’s efective CQ weapon in Pacific that is still capable to fight at longer distances.
  • Browning Auto 5 vs Type 95 Shin Gunto: Browning 5 is much better, Gunto is just a meme weapon, stick with your bayonet…
  • F2A-3 vs A5M4: Buffalo is one of the best fighters in this campaign, this one is equal to A6M2. A5M4 is a joke and should be counterpart to F2A-1 version.
  • M1 Garand vs Type 99 (late): Type 99 is from my taste worst BA rifle in this campaign, there’s no reason to use it. M1 Garand is much better than Type 99, it’s one of the best general purpose weapons for USA. I’m replacing every Springfield with Garands…NO, they are not comparable…
  • M1A1 Flamethrower vs Type 93: they are the same.
  • Owen v MP28 7.65mm: I used both, Owen is better by a mile than this version of MP28. I tried to use it many times but this guns sucks, and even those 50 rounds mags don’t save it. I don’t find Owen good gun but definitly better than this MP28.
  • SBD-3 vs D3A1: Dauntless is better at any aspect except overall acceleration, better guns, better bombload, better defensive armament, more nimble…just a batter plane overall.
    M1903 with GL vs 38 Rifle with GL: I prefer 38 Rifle, it’s best general purpose rifle for Japanese side
    Springfield 1903A4 v Arisaka 99 Sniper: they are almost the same as previous ones, didn’t used them much.
  • F4F vs A6M2: I prefer zero overall, but they are comparable.
  • BAR 1918A2 vs Type 97: They are not even comparable, as i mentioned BAR 1918A2 is best rifle available in this campaign and I spam it as much as possible. Type 97 is bugged, joke weapon as all Japanese MG’s are in this game.
  • M1 Bazooka vs Type 5 Launcher: I find them similiar, i killed both tanks and infantry with them.
  • Johnson Rifle vs Type Otsu Rifle: Otsu is as bad as Hei rifle is, thus i would stick with 38 Rifle anyway. Johnson is much better general purpose rifle overall…they are not comparable.
  • M3 Stuart vs Ke-Ni: M3 is much better than Ke-Ni. This is a joke that they even considered Ke-Ni instead of Chi-Ha as top vehicle for Japan there. M3 Stuart have much better armor, have better MG and a bit better gun. Clear winner.
  • M2 Flamethrower vs Type 100: They are the same. M2 is more visually pleasing as it’s more iconic.
  • M1A1 Thompson vs Type2A SMG: Thompson is much better for me, especially with higher damage and overall DPS value. Type2A is the first usable SMG for Japan.
  • Johnson LMG vs Type 96 LMG: I said it before, all japanese LMGs sucks in this campaign. Meanwhile Johnson is FG42-II LMG equivalent for Pacific Campaign without any recoil, with very good damage, quite bad sights and 20 rounds mags…they are not comparable.
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Totally agree. The biggest issue is about the unbalanced weapons.
I currently played 209 matches in jap. Regular weapons other than type 2a are all unsatisfing. By this i mean though playable against noobs, they are not gonna stand much chance infront of maxed good ally players.
So i have to chose something different, which is grenade and launcher spam. This method is capable to overcome the difference in weapons. however, people won’t have too much joy playing with them.
The other serious issue deeply connected with weapon is the amount of active fighting players are unequal as fuck. In so many cases i have to play with my self against an entire enemy team… Now i only play japs in squad with at least 2 other good gamers.
This entire campaign is so much unbalanced than any place else.
The screen shot shows how hard the game is for japs. Taken at the day of battle pass update.

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Only significant imbalance I see in the campaign is that the M13 is a lot harder to hurt than the Ta Se.
I can easily shoot the crew out of the Ta Se, but the M13 still has a bit of hitbox jank.

Only major problem is the same problem every campaign has had. 90% of the player base always floods the same side at once.
If more players would queue Japan, the winrates would even out even with no direct balance changes.

You know that there are shitload of people that would take this statement as “skill issue”?
Eh…i hope Darkflow will balance this soon, it’s in fact unplayable outside premade squads.

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I know. I have ignored such people. I doubt they are the ones with true skill issue.
The current situation is nothing to do with skills. Its the balance. The balance only.

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You can’t expect bad-match making to be countered. When one-side has high-ranked/leveled players armed with the latest and greatest weapons versus new and low-level players armed with the bare basics. I’ve been repeatedly matched to Japanese sides that haven’t got a single player over even sergeant rank vs organized American teams of Marshals. (plus half the japanese side being bots)

Many aspects of jap’s disadvantage are easy to see.
Taking tanks as an example, for any one who ever played m2A4 or Stuart and any jap tanks, it is easy to tell who is inferior. Type 95 or 98 have :No commander vision, no long lasting machinegun fire, no high explosives, less crew members and yes tiny armor… what a disaster.

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They had different options to choose for Japan but they have chosen the worst ones and also those are terribly implemented in the game as well.

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It has nothing to do with balance and everything to do with perception of balance.

Campaigns keep shifting back and forth for no good reason other than the community hivemind.

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So you REALLY want to explain us that it is only our perception that the Ha-Go is completely useless? Or that the Ta-Se can be suppressed and knocked out from the front by every rifleman in game at any range? I guess its only in my imagination…

I have seen shifting back and forth in other campaings but nothing will shift back here because of the equipment alone.

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Excellent counter argument. 100% support

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