Matchmaking and game improvements, from quick match to custom game

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hello everyone, today I would like to propose as per the title an improvement of the matchmaking system, which ranges from quick match, to add new factions and stuff, to improvements of the custom game especially to guarantee lobbies with battles presumably accurate to the second world war (depending on how they will be set up)

the topic ranges in 3 main points:

  1. improvements to the main mode and what does it guarantee?
  2. Custom Game Improvements and what does it guarantee?
  3. conclusions and personal opinions

1) improvements to the main mode and what does it guarantee?

to start enlisted has a big problem, the fact that it tends to force this semi-relaistic and semi-arcade approach in every mode, whether for events or main game, this mix creates different problems

  • It dissatisfies players who want a more realistic experience
  • It will disappoint players who want a more arcade experience
  • slows down development by forcing developers to compromise
  • It does not grant freedom to add other factions within the game and to fictional maps
  • prevents the use of game modes other than a battle thath look like a figth between two armies (no skirmisk, no king of the hill, deathmatch…etc)

and more…

so i think the main mode or in this case quick match should abandon historically accurate matchmaking and go all faction vs all faction, but what does this guarantee?

  • more fictional and historical game modes
  • more factions and their equipment because the playerbase is now almost completely united
  • faster game development with more maps and content
  • more dynamic gameplay not knowing which nation will be your ally or your enemy
  • more freedom to play with friends who use different countries than yours

now you might be wondering what happens to historically accurate? this in the second point

Custom Game Improvements and what does it guarantee?

custom games, at the time of writing, lack any kind of improvement, and it is a huge wasted potential, because they should guarantee the freedom to users to create their own battles, which they do not do today, so I propose to add

  • BR filter, to ensure the session creator can select which BR is authorized in that session
  • equipment, faction filter and map rotation, to give the session creator the ability to recreate historical scenarios or mini events, banning pieces of equipment, faction and maps from the session
  • more visibility for custom games in the menu, possibly as a button next to the quick match button
  • at least one official rotating instance that recreates the game’s old campaigns, and which changes daily for both squad and lone fighter
  • optional ability to purchase servers to use enlisted for custom content, (such as mods or @ErikaKalkbrenner editor costum uniform or @Bigote0070 costum sound mod) and which are fully player-maintained like in other games

conclusions and personal opinions

I firmly believe that enlisted can provide the appropriate experience for all types of players, if some changes are made, there should be no compromises of any kind that ruin the gaming experience, and everyone should be free to play as they want, enlisted is able to provide this and I sincerely hope that it will happen sooner or later

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Don’t give up historical accuracy, at least not in name. Otherwise, I don’t know how it can compare with Battlefield 5. Maybe Enlisted is more fun because it has more bot players? There are many World War II-themed games that mainly focus on setting up custom servers, but they are often unacceptable due to issues with the administrators or the small number of players, and eventually fizzle out. It is well-known that Enlisted lacks a sufficient player base, and the situation of its custom servers can be easily imagined.

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The BR system is the source that destroys historical accuracy, and it doesn’t perform very well in terms of balance either. If the BR system can be regularly supplemented and adjusted, I have no objections. However, if DF is slack in this regard, I still advocate getting rid of the BR system and introducing a ranking system that is more in line with historical accuracy.

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The BR system doesn’t perform well for balance

Except it does. Weapons are generally balanced against each other. There’s some instances where one faction is stronger in an area, but some asymmetry is okay. It’s certainly way more balanced than the campaigns ever were.

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We need 1945 M2 Carbine in Normandy 1944 back like in the old days, indeed!

Game is still developed and not abandoned.
Game has more stuff.
Game has better armor system.
Game has squad/ AI squadmates combat system.
…

Hell Let Loose may argue about that. I think even BF1942 does still deploy custom servers, not to mention BF3 and BF4 though they are not WW2. RO2 also still has servers despite small player numbers.

Only for Japan, and whenever people think we need more underdeveloped factions. Custom games and their popularity,y however already tell a different story

Because before that, scrapped tanks appearing in Moscow were historically accurate, I guess.

According to who? For the most part, it works except for couple of wrongly rated weapons.

The closest thing to a ranking system was a disaster and rejected.

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I feel this is probably the most likely way forward.

Mixed factions would go a long way to fixing some of the biggest MM issues (as in faction stacking)…i personally hate mixed factions, but if customs were given the necessary additions i could be satisfied there (provided xp, bp and events still had full support)

Like warthunder, arcade only does it for so long. As soon as realistic was available arcade was dead to me.

Cant really object to satisfying the many

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ugh… so… war thunder ?

and why should that be the case.

i don’t see any positives about that.

well, not to sound entitled, but i do agree, and should have been a no brainer.

problem is Or rather, are

beside being next to impossible to achieve ( the campaign system. they aren’t precisely going to do that considering how long it’s taking them for simple QOL ( such as testing custom made profiles in local. you have to uplad them through the portal, login each time, waste around 2 minuts before the game launching and creating sessions etc, just to then see if it works. cross check, edit it, and redo the whole thing. ).

an entire campaign system i’m not sure.

regarding the servers,

as the CM said over discord:

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" dev longer-term objective ".
which, i could be mis interpreting. and i’m not sure i got it quite right.

but like…
unless we go for the “creation club like” from bethesda… i have no clue how you can achieve any longer or shorter term for developers.

i guess purchesable server would answer that. but most wouldn’t pay for the current servers due to severe instabilities among templates and what not. ( nor they would like to do so ) and let alone the ethics of it. should you really pay for play my or any other modders colleague mods?, if anything, to reward and improve the eco system, modders should be rewarded in some way to keep doing what they do and incentivize them to produce more higher quality mods. making people to pay for servers to even try those would hardly even incentivize people to play them to begin with.

Side note.
i’m not really sure how or why my custom made costums or anyone else sound mode should… work.

if anything, sound integration within mods should be a thing, and allow creators to have their own or integrate them from else or even have the option to not ( or do ) change sound mods.

but as goes for my clothings, not sure how you would make them function.
those aren’t inherently " addons ". more of local additions.
which were designed to be placed in the base game.

i suppose it is a subjective matter. and as much i would like to make enlisted for everyone, i think the base game is more or less fine as it is.

it’s customs that should change to allow a total arcade like you are suggestion, or a more historical experience for those who seek that.

because as much historical accuracy has been the biggest lie of this game and it will keep that to it’s own tobstone, ( and how it gets misused by a lot of people who apparently don’t know better, or don’t want to ) enlisted just because it’s not historical accurate, it shouldn’t go full ape s**t.
there should be still in place some sort of resemblences. otherwise yeah, it wouldn’t be better than bfv or cod vanguard.

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Quick match the arcade kindergarten, costum matches chad place for refine gentleman and lady, basically everyone get what they want and can swap between

Obliviously is a necessity

I was thinking to Just rename a costum match “Normandy” and add all the Normandy map, isn’t a campaign as whole, just a official costum instance with all the Normandy map where just GER and USA players can join, with or without BR/equipment restrictions, for both squad and lone fighter, just to give people the same feel of the old campaign and a single theatre where play without getting smashed all of the world (and of course today Normandy, tomorrow Moscow and so on)

Will is power, I’m not in this kind of marketing but if is realisable, the :arrow_down:

Like Bethesda or Electronic arts for battlefield would become reality

In others games works, people purchase server and create their own little game spot, sure there are fee to pay, but is just how works

I’m not saying my suggestion is perfect, but more or less, I believe that quick match shouldn’t be the main mode, it should be just a place for a fast battle with friend or for grind 20 minutes in a sandbox environment, the whole spot of the game should be in custom game where people can put themselves together and play

Sure

This actually need even something like a lobby chat, without talking about other communicative feature between players, but yea start asking is the first step, because as I said up, with the right changes the game can really outshine all the competitions

This are my two cent however, I know people would have different opinions, but I’m trying to make everyone happy suggesting something it can work for everyone, but anyway as always if someone has a better solution should say it

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Anyway because i haven’t seen people outside @ErikaKalkbrenner or @Myrm1don adding their own thoughts on this, I believe the community isn’t interested in this suggestion so I’m just going close it, the suggestion itself remains here, if someone want use mine @ErikaKalkbrenner or @Myrm1don thought to build his own suggestion on what I proposed here or something else it can do it without issues even quoting pieces of it