Making Enlisted a Better Place №50: Golden Jubilee

Nah, i like here

btw, somone gotta chill before some documents gets leaked just to prove a point, just saying :eyes:

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Best source I’ve found so far:

The emblem of Nazi Germany, eagle with swastika, is still visible on many of the rifles that were used by the Norwegian military. The “FLY” prefix to the serial number denotes that this rifle was issued to Flyvåpenet (Air Force).

So maybe FLY means that MP-38 was issued to Norwegian air force.

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Premium vehicles skins/camos when???
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Well, we have FLY 94 and FLY 615. The second one obviously is not Ossenberg-Engels GmbH, so i believe it’s serial number of exact gunpart or consignment.
So, some new manufacturer of gun receivers in June 1941 marked them for some reason with date-code and serial number. That’s my version)

Hm. If that is the case, you’d be right in saying it wouldn’t make much sense being on an MP-38 still in use by the Germans.

Although that does beg the question of why the Norwegian Air Force would have them, considering they were invaded and occupied by the Germans, not an ally.

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Yes you’re probably more right, I forgot the image you provided has 615 and not 94.

Mp38 and mp40 and others german gun get captured and used by norway army remnant and partisian, probably after the war end they keep them issued for a bit

HÆR = army
FLY = flyvåpenet = air force
K.ART = kystartilleri = coastal artillery

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It all makes sense now.

FLY-… is a Norwegian service marking.


"Beginning in 1953, as rifles were returned to the Kongsberg arms depot, re-barrelled eaxamples in .30-06 were issued to replace them in service. By the end of 1954, all the K98k rifles in service with the Army (HÆR) and Air Force (FLY) would have been issued in .30-06, while the Navy (KNM) retained the original 8x57JS chambering to completely deplete existing stores of ammunition. Other groups within Norway also received "

" At the end of When Germany capitulated in 1945, there were nearly 400,000 German soldiers in Norway (largely thanks to the efforts of the Norwegian Resistance to prevent them from being transferred south). This provided Norway with a massive supply of K98k Mauser rifles to reequip their armed forces, and they picked about 250,000 of the best condition guns (mostly early war production, naturally) to take into service. These rifles were repaired and refurbished as necessary, and given new Norwegian serial numbers on the receivers, bolts, and buttplates. They were also modified to have “U”-notch rear sights and square post front sights.

In 1953 and 54, the a program was undertaken to rebarrel the rifles from 8x57mm to .30-06 (7.62x63mm) in order to be able to use supplies of .30-06 ammunition made available by the United States. While the Norwegian Navy retained its 8mm chambering, all the other service branches had their rifles modified to use the new cartridge, and these rifles were given the new designation m/K98kF1. A second rebarreling was begun years later to convert rifles to the new 7.62mm NATO cartridge, but this was quickly abandoned and the G3 rifle adopted instead, with the Mauser going into war reserve by 1973"

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So the MP-38 would’ve been a captured MP-38 which was re-designated by the Norwegian Air Force in the 1950s.

(I wonder if the “94” specifically is a Norwegian Serial Number or does indeed relate to it’s German manufacturer, probably the former).

Well, I’d say then you’re right in claiming a WWII German-owned MP38 definitely shouldn’t have such markings.

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Please fix the bayonets in tunisia and pacific

Hm, now it looks more solid.
Well, at least we knew something interesting today)

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Thank you for level-headed discussion.

This does seem to be the only explanation.

So far I’ve only seen “FLY” on Kar98s and not MP-38s so I would guess that the MP-38 from the Baltic website is either a reproduction or a very, very rare Norwegian service MP-38.

The numbers seem to be just Norwegian numeration:




Please forward to the relevant department :wink:

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Sure. Btw since MP 38 have pretty old texture and model (I actually don’t like its bakelite color), it may already be on the list for remodeling.

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Double V for our boy Veekay :slight_smile:

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Since we’re on guns: the movement of guns while shouldered in ads is odd. The back end of the gun moves around quite a bit while the front stays centered, when it should be closer to the opposite of that: the pivot point of the gun would be the buttstock pressed against your shoulder and the front of the gun should move more relative to the players viewpoint.

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Actual W.

Not trying to suck up or anything (unless you want me to :eyes:) but it’s nice having community managers who actually just have these odd conversations and are willing to actually put forward suggestions based on them.

People give a lot of shade on Enlisted PR and communication (I have in the past even) but this conversation reminded me that other games definitely have it 100x worse.

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I’m glad you liked our small investigation)))
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Damn i love conversations about small firearms)

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Speaking of textures, the wood texture of the M1 Carbine is way too light. Would look better if it was darker, hopefully its on the list of weapons to be remodeled.

I must agree