Soldiers have 10 health base.
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I have noticed this physical stuff as well, on windows and while trying to shoot out of trenches sometimes you need to take a step back to not have the weapon collide with thingsâŚ
Same as you canât lean to the side as much if your head would collide with a wall 
Though at 10 damage they will go down, they will not die. 15 damage is required for instakill. Neck shots have a 2x modifier, headshots have a 1.8x modifier, upper torso has a 1x modifier.
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You can easily mowedown a squad with an smg just by hip firing at close to medium distance, mg canât do that, you have to kneel and ads to control recoil. In cqb it doesnât matter if you use smg or mg.
Anyway, running with LMG I have seen plenty of guys running with Short barreled PKM in a forest.
For people using this picture as a ww2 original:
That was during a re-enactment in Texas. And thatâs not live ammunition.
I too think that while some LMG could be fired without being deployed, they arenât suitable to rush a building like a SMG. The recoil ingame is pretty low. It doesnât need to be stupid high like in some games (you shoot once and the gun straight aim into the sky). But it also doesnât need to be that low (unless the goal is to please the arcade gamers).
Even in the videos posted above, just look the stance those people have and how they really need to control the recoil. Imagine doing that while running.
On other hand, to balance a higher recoil, it should be much easier to rest the weapon on a window/sandbags/⌠Currently you have to find the right angle, a step forward, a bit to the left, umm no, back to the rightâŚ
This should also apply to the anti-tank rifle. Those weapons have a HUGE recoil, are really heavy and long, and seeing youâre able to use it against tanks (or even soldiers) like a normal rifle is just stupid
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Not all M16s are automaticâŚ
Yes all M16s are or are select fire meaning burst. All AR15 platforms are not
Burst fire is not the same as automatic which is also why some models of M16s have both as an optionâŚ
M16a1 semi auto or full auto. No burst fire
M16a2 semi auto or 3 round burst. No full auto.
M16a3 semi auto or full auto. No burst fire
M16a4 semi auto or 3 round burst. No full auto.
You made a claim to classify an M16 as a machinegun which it is no where near being.
And there it becomes purely subjective and based on what?
The Chauchat weights 20lbs and has an atrocious weight balance. The Bren Mk. II is close to 23lbs but the ZB, which weights âonlyâ 21 lbs only maybe. And well the BAR is the most unquestioned and first to be named because itâs an automatic rifle and with 19lbs a âlightweightâ and shooting it in a standing position was done and is still done.
Oh and then the FG-42âŚwhich is NO lmg, weights only half of the others with 11lbs and is anyway the probably most smooth shooting because of the recoil dampening in the stock and the not so tiny compensator. The BAR is also no lmg by deifnition but comes far closer to one. The closest to compare a FG-42 would be a swiss Stgw. 57 (SIG 510) - a Battlerifle.
But DEFINITELY the Breda mod.30 with 23lbs (Bren says hello) shouldnât. And also the MG 30 because 21lbs is just to heavy to do it. And the MG 34 and 42 wit 26lbs/25.5lbs are way off! Same for the DP with 25lbs.
The BAR is only 2lbs lighter than a MG 30, the Bren is the same weight as a Breda mod. 30 and only 2.5lbs lighter than an MG 42. So weight is dismissed as an argument.
So maybe itâs about ergonomics? But the Chauchat is absolutely terrible in this aspect. The BAR is the only mentioned gun with a proper grip for the second hand - the Bren and ZB have an additional handle whichâs position is good for hip firing but suboptimal for shoulder firing.
Or is it the recoil? Recoil is highly related to the weight of the gun and the power of the catridge.
So does 19lbs with .30-06 or 7.92 Mauser in a 26lbs gun better? (alternatively 6.5 Carcano in a 23lbs gun)
Of course rof comes in to play, too. But this is more about short bursts vs holding down the trigger until ammo runs out and the MG34 and MG42 gunners were drilled to shoot 5-7 round bursts (if not on lafette/tripod) anyways no matter the shooting stance. And if we are honest even in Enlisted you will get off target with these guns after a short burst if the gun is not mounted as soon as we are out of CQB ranges.
And really none (FG 42 is another piece of cake like already said) of these would be pleasant to hold for an extendend period of time in a shoulderfire position. Thereâs an inRange youtube clip where they are doing a 2-gun match FG-42 vs. BAR and Karl who used the BAR has some harsh words about how draining it is to âhaul that pig of a gunâ.
Now to the next point: Historicity of at leas hip firing these guns was very real. There are the field manuals which detailed instructions and also a little bit of footage.
And even today for the MG3 there is the âA2-222/0-0-4750 Zentralrichtlinie SchieĂen mit Handwaffenâ which includes it. So thatâs completely out of question.
And shoulder firing it? Well here with the MG3 the nearly identical grand daughter of the '42
Random guy who knows what heâs doing and no doingi t the first time like on many yt videos:
(Norwegian?) Soldiers training it:
Estonian soldier shooting it from the shoulder while kneeling:
Is it possible to shoot a 7.62mm Machingeun from the shoulder accurately at least at distances below 100m?
Well thatâs no match shooting but the volume of fire makes up if just one bullet ha to hit and Iâm pretty certain a standing or kneeling target @100m would be hit several times in both videos and the first one is probably effective above 100m, too.
And last but not least, do I personally know that it is possible to shoot with a machingeun like the MG42 in a standing position from the shoulder and hit something? Well trying it during my time as a draftee wouldâve been too much fun and so anything that went beyond MG3-S-6 was reserved to the instructors. But luckily thereâs the reserve and the results of my first try: 6/11/8 hits on a mansized target out of 3x15 round in Belt on target @25m with an MG3âŚand the MG3 and me was a hate-love relationship, there were guy really more proficient with it.
So I think 2-3 hits woulâve been possible @50m and If someone who has a better relationship with the MG3 and more practice could do much more.
So as a matter of fact: Yes it is possible, yes it is done - also in the military and not only by rambos at the range. Everyone who claims else is wrong. proven wrong!
But this is not what you wanât to do with an MG because all the advantages of an MG canât be utilized this way. You want to shoot from a supported position when ever possible. But if it is not possible immediately you can absolutely aim and hit targets below 100m. Short Bursts with weapons with a high rof or longer burts with weapons like the 240 Bravo are just details.
what you all want is this:
But thatâs pure comedy skill and not a trained MG gunner.
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Ok go ask the ATF. Does the ATF classify all variants of true M16s or any firearm that has select fire capability as machine guns. Yes. They are all classified as machine guns.
The NFA defines a machinegun as any weapon which: âshoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.â
Iâm looking at ergonomics as well and being able to fire without burning your hand. The Breda and most German MGs are just bare metal right to the barrel
Some are iffy there.
ignores the massive thermal glove on his hand
stop trying to act like this is normal in combat
Read through most of the comments. Skipped when it was just pointless arguing. MGs are fine as is. Shooting them shouldered has terrible recoil. You can not full auto and hope to hit anything. They have slower ADS times than other weapons. The soldier with the mg is significantly slower than a soldier with an SMG. Their reload is significantly longer. While hip firing, if you mag dump you have to fight the recoil to remain on target. Also hip firing at anything other than point blank is pointless other than suppression. You might get lucky and kill your target at mid range, or more likely your going to get tapped in the head by a rifle while youâre spraying all around him. Enlisted is one of the few games that does LMG justice. Slow, cumbersome, but deadly in right circumstances. They donât have reduced damage because of high rate of fire and ammo capacity like they do in other games. They have worse ergo than rifles and smgs. They do not need a nerf.
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Additionaly they are a big flag âshoot me!â since every single bullet is a tracer which is contrary to real tracrs visible from 360° as soon as it leaves the barrel. A MG which holds a position which isnât a chokepoint getâs shot after the first salvos by a scoped or non scoped rifle from halfway across the map.
Did I miss something? In what way they are cumbersome?
You literally run way slower than other troops while you have the mg equipped. Race a friend or time it in practice mode. And their ADS time is slower than every other weapon.
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Only for a select few. The premium Polish BAR has 0 recoil, for example.
You can also swap to knife during running to completely negate the running speed penalty
Their ADS time is pretty irrelevant as theyâre accurate enough in hipfire in CQC
I have the premium squads. No it doesnât have 0 recoil. Anything more than close range if your not prone and shooting it while ADS, anything more than two round bursts and your not going to hit anything.
As for the knife running, that is counter intuitive to the entire topic. OP was referring to running around clearing buildings with it. If you run into a building, or even towards an occupied building with a knife your at an even bigger disadvantage
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