But if there’s a roof or cover, it’ll improve a lot, and I and other players need this.
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Title: holy shit someone is positive.
Thread: please buff.
Dammit got baited
This is a good offer, because the M10 is absolutely uncompetitive against the background of the new panther. The roof for the M10 will somehow increase its survivability on the battlefield, at least at the expense of a live crew
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wait i thought you cant shoot crew from the top. As infantry that is
currently, you can only kill the commander and gunner in the m8 if you jump on the roof, but not the radio guy and the driver due to some invisible wall.
weather for the m10, only the commander. ( because of bad hitboxes )
speaking for OP,
absolutely not.
and are you seriously comparing an m10 to a panther?..
the only thing they need, is better polished hitboxes inside the tank.
because currently, those " roofs " are somewhat present despite not being visible 
otherwise, what next?
bulletproof covered bikes?
Well allies get the M10 while the axis get a Panther so it´s understandable why he does it. Wich then starts the debate as to if the M10 was a good choice to include at that tier.
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not really,
i guess it is rather questionable.
but so can be said about many other tanks.
i don’t think such buff should take place because of it.
I mean a roof cover is hardly a game changer. Might aswell throw allied players a bone here since they get a TD and axis a better medium tank with an MG.
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except, it is?
personally, as i’m on foot, and i see a tank such as the m10 and m8, it’s a priority to take them down as one is a tank hunter, and the other an infantry killer.
so, if you don’t have any TNT everyone has the rights to actually use their weakness and take advantage of it. i’m sorry, but if their head stick our they become a target.
which just like in real life, m8s and m10s companies don’t usually rush the points with no F given and no infantry support. i guess the roof question speaks clearly.
should justify the uses?
and therefore it’s out of question.
Except that american TDs like the M10 are the only ones currently in the game with such a weakness. And since they don´t have MGs to engage infantry that puts them in a worse spot than the Panther too. I don´t know how much better the M10s 3 inch gun performs in comparison to the regular 75 so that might be another potential issue.
If they put something like the Marder III in aswell I would completely agree with your position but then again I don´t know how the Jumbos perform against Panther so maybe I´m worriying over nothing. Jagdpanzer IV/70 (V) and Stug III/IV also would´ve been cool to see because those turretless TDs would work better in Normandy than the streets of Berlin.
In real life your everyday soldier also wouldn´t carry a pack of TNT with him to throw at tanks incase they pop up like you said in the paragraph above so where do you draw the line in terms of balance and authenticity is now the question again.
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You should worry.
Well it´s good that I main Axis on Normandy then lol
I’m playing both and have both tanks. Painful experiance. For Jumbo.
I don´t even have the M8 on allies so my experience on german tanks is non existent beyond what´s in Berlin. So Panthers haven´t been that big of a problem to me personally.
mh…
let me see,
first of all, the M10 it’s not the only vehicle with open top crew.
and watching the files, it’s not going to be the only one.
speaking of MG, the semovente over tunisia does not have a machinegun as well.
nor the Su-85 over berlin.
both are Tankdestroyer.
so i see a pattern here.
( doesn’t mean i have to like it though )
it has better rounds in terms of penetration.
although surely you ain’t gonna penetrate a panther at frontal plate ( unless enlisted is different from wt ).
which it’s in the files.
i suspect it will be used over Moscow for latter tanks, or tunisia. ( since were used there as well ).
the Jumbo is capable of penning the Panther in various way. through the turett, or flank it.
what i struggle to understand, is the needing of tank destroyers.
perhaps as a side grade in my opinion, but further than that, it’s not like you end up encountering 4/5 tanks where it needs more than a simple PZ IV / sherman
that is somewhat correct.
to an extent.
still plays the major role of people going unsopported.
and that’s basically how i see and kill m8s and m10s “on a daily”.
and majority of people in this forum thinks more " i got killed by that, so it MUST be nerfed " when in reality, there is no need what so ever.
although, this is just my assumtion, and i’m sorry if i’m wrong.
it’s like suggesting for the upcoming open top tansk to be all closed some way or another, all of them. simply does not make sense
and in OP situation, a field modification that ( I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT; WASN’T EVEN AVAILABLE IN THE 1944 FOR THE M8 SINCE IT’S A 1945 Modification )
saw Limited numbers.
what next, halftracks closed top?
cool, there are a few german versions of it, although were modified by the czech in the 80s…
and there, how are you gonna take out fast moving targets? tnt?
i guess you can, but it’s very hard when you can shoot out the crew ( the way people actually did it back in the days i believe )
Somehow I failed to do it. The only thing I menage to do is destroying its main gun. Was impossible to pen the turret for me. Maybe that premium Jumbo with APCR.
And I was shooting these areas.
While Panther A can kill 3 cruical members - commander, gunner and loader.
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no. you take out his barell.
a panther still needs to aim the machigun port. or the side turett.
it doesn’t go through at frontal plate like nothing.
They could work as Premium tanks too, that way you get a unique playstyle while not clogging up the progression tree with stuff nobody wants to use.
Obviously it would have to be on a case by case bases, I´m not dealing in absolutes here afterall.
Depends on how they´re gonna work ingame. Most likely not since they would be just lightly armored transport vehicles with an MG on top (if even that)
Launchers, mines, AT/AA guns, tanks
Otherwise I agree on some points and disagree on others but all in all it´s been a pleasure so far.
Frontal plate is yellow which means won’t result as a pen. The 2nd picture I showed is somewhere between turret and hull. 100% pen and results are 3 dead crew members. Plus the terrain ain’t flat everywhere (physics) so Panther A will have even more green areas for the pen.