Lower Federov

OP poorly disguised unbalanced game matches

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To me it sounds like he has a major skill issue with the already insanely strong T2 Russia, PPS-43, Winny, T-50 are some insanely good choices.

I also love how someone was like “THE MKB III is T2!”

That’s a GO.
you can’t get anymore.
it was seen as one of the worst guns you could get alongside the MKB W

Should we do the same with Fed? Force people who have a ton to lose them and only get like 4, Have it heavily nerfed and sent to T3?

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Following that
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They also have the IL-2 1941.
P-40E-1
T-28/E
PTRS-41

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If you say “OH WHAT ABOUT T3!”
Ppsh-41 box mag.
KV-1
Panzerfaust 60
The SVT-40
IL-2M (The best soviet attacker.)
If you get a downtier: you can do insanely well, If you can get an uptier you can still put up a good fight. just without armor and at a slightly weaker state.

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That’s why I didn’t see him in battle.

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To handle T2 germany just to drill my point into the dirt.

The germans have only a handful of tanks that can handle the T-50 from the front.
The FNAB-43 is a weaker PPS-42 basically.
Germany has better fighters, But very slow attackers
The armaguerra is just a joke.
The MG13 is better for germany.
GrB on paper is a better AT weapon but damn it’s hard to use vs the PTRS-41, Sturm pistol requires you to be super close as well and is alot of luck based weapon.

Over all Russia has an insanely strong T2 line up but the Germans are not weak.

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Agree, Soviet tier 3 is more than good

the t34 or kv1 can one tap panther and disable the tiger, just tiger 2 and jagdpanther are a problem

Planes can still hold their ground even aganaist german tier 5 plane

Infantry gun Dp,ppsh41box, panzrfaust are lethal as their endgame counterpart and svt38 once maxed is more than sufficient for counter even enemy with stg from the distance

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Look, I’m not saying that can’t happen, but i would love to know what angle that’s happening from. If you can tell me how to do that reliably from the front I might actually play BR 3 soviets

Edit: Found it. Teeny tiny machine gun port. Doesn’t count.

I do it in the past days, aimed on the turret and fired, boom, i used the t34 1941, also if you dont kill him you probably have damaged the turret so is a win in the end

Well, it doesn’t work with the T-34 STZ, and the 1941 still has a better gun than the KV-1. i’ll play around with it in the practice range, but I’m sorry to tell you that that’s not at all how this works in the game. No pen = no damage

It happen however otherwise i dont said it in the first place

Sure man. I’m not saying it didn’t happen. I’m saying it can’t happen. I’m testing it right now, at closer ranges on the practice range than you should get to a panther if he’s smart, and none of the 76mm gun T-34s or the KV-1 L11 can pen the panther, from the front, anywhere but the machinegun port on the glacis, and that’s unreliable at best.

It wasnt, at least the 2 panther G i killed in the same map both tank gived me their turret left spot during their infantry farming, i fired at the turret and killed the people inside

A kv1 in the same battle did the same, i can give you it wasnt a smart german team, but at least kv1 and t34 1941 can kill them if they hit the turret from the side

Something impossibile to do with forward tiger who force you to barrel snipe them for make them inoffensive

Ah, see, we’ve had a miscommunication, because I asked if you could do it from the fron and we argued back and forth until you now say it was the side. That’s fine, I don’t even need to test that to know it works.

On the front options, though, I’ve now found you need the 85mm from the IS-1 or T-34-85 to reliably pen the turret on Panther. So you need a BR 5 tank to fight it, but that same T-34-85 can be killed through the front by BR 3 Pz-IV J.

Germany Suffers?

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My bad i missed the side part, yes the pz4j can kill every tank now after the penetration was corrected in all tank

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I’m less interested in super-correct historical accuracy for tank pen in Enlisted than I am in some semblance of balanced gameplay, but we’ve dragged the thread off topic, so I’ll save the essay for another post.

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This isn’t ‘other games’, though.

I have no fears this game will go the WT route when it’s already proven to be heading the opposite direction that WT took.

I think dropping the federov to tier 2 is simply outrageous. However I made a post softly regarding the topic of this post at the same time throwing a suggestion about queues and BR’s around. It’s named “Suggestion for queues and weapon’s BR’s”.

I just think it’s a shame because this game is a great WW2 sandbox but then we get into the ultimate history vs balance debate, and I get that

It was a matter of time when they would have to choose one over the other. Like I said it’s just funny because in general many things tend to line up both historically and BR like early war being weak and late war being strong, but of coarse there are outliers. And I roll my eyes when I get matches with Panzerfausts, Panthers, and T-34-85 in Stalingrad

Now I know some would say, just play a different game lol, but it’s not that simple. I do love this game, I like its mechanics, gamplay, plus it has probably the most amount of content compared to any other WW2 game. I like the game’s bones, I just don’t agree with some of its decisions

I’ll always hope that maybe they will change things……but maybe they’ll make a more historical mode, or a deep extensive overhaul of making custom games

that is only half correct. what dictates war production is ease of production and economical cost.
e.g. that is why americans wanted m3 and m3a1 to replace thompson, that is why germany switched to pz 4 J instead of H and continued production of stug 3, panzer 4 and panthers despite having capability to produce tigers and also there are volkssturm weapons despite having capability to produce stg44 and russians going for simpler pps 42 and 43 instead of ppsh41 (although they continued to produce it due to having machines, skilled labor and capacity to mass produce it).

and that is ok if people make that choice.

there was no place for asymmetry in this game when they started to put OP stuff post level 20-25 in every campaign. it wouldnt even be that bad if the caps and maps were bigger and gray zone was smaller.

agreed on pps. they should have just skipped tier if they didnt have anything appropriate to add to that tier.

i see some weapons more in one battle than they have been produced in the whole war.

that is why i hate HA and immersion arguments. for HA/immersion purposes 95% of the weapons should be kar98k, mosins and m1 carbine/garand with occasional mg or smg in early war and in later war you would still get majority of kar98k, mosins and m1 carbine/garand but with more mg/smg and few semi auto rifles for germans/soviets.

still a prewar gun.

only partially. grind system is problem that would be obstacle to good experience cause some players would have access to good stuff (even though rare), while some wouldnt.

KT only needs to take few steps in current maps…