Lower Federov

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The Federov Avtomat was an early automatic rifle developed in 1915. It saw a little bit of service in WW1, the Russian Civil War, and it’s last hurrah was the Winter War with Finland. In this game’s current state it is literally the top tier weapon at Tier 5. Even before the BR update we had Soviets using these WW1 vintages in Berlin 1945

Now let me preface this by saying that no I am not complaining because ohh I was killed by this and it should be removed blah blah. I literally don’t care. I also don’t mind having various rare and prototype things. For me it is simply an issue of immersion

I think the Federov should be moved to Tier 1-2. For whatever reason the devs arbitrarily bumped up its stats so it could be king tier, probably because they didn’t have many ideas for new weapons. Even in reality it’s fire rate is a lot slower than how it is in game. Under my logic it makes sense for the Federov to only be in early war in Moscow and Stalingrad because that period was the darkest hour of the Soviet Union, before they pulled themselves together.

So the Federov should be lowered and it’s stats should be refined more closely to how it is in real life, instead of this supposed super weapon

Now don’t worry, if you want to use the Federov in later battles, at the moment, the BR system has many loopholes. All you have to do is just equip some Tier 5 item on you then boom your whole composition is Tier 5

Also it is not an assault rifle, it is an automatic rifle like the FG 42. Do you think it should be properly moved to the Riflemen class as well?

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fedorov is too powerful for tier2, its the best gun soviets can have if purely ha then no but in custom games that is fine

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i mean i dont like this suggestion but the stats of the weapon can be turned down to be closer to the real gun or just to the point it could fit well in 1-2 tier games

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Likewise they treated chzec weapons like the mg and autorifle

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Even at lowered realistic stats, 1-2 is too low.

Because even semi, not full auto, rifles which use full powered rounds of all factions, are at br 3-4.

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Fedorov is to god for be at tier 2, is on of the best gun on the game, even nerfed it should be putted in tier 3 because can still go aganaist german assault rifle

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I think 1-2 is better on immersion grounds in my opinion, but 3 is at least a compromise because it has a chance to spawn in either early or late war

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I suggest placing it and the mkb at tier 4 and then making it queues 1-2,2-3 3-4 and 4-5. And give Moscow and Stalingrad the first three queue and then that makes it that way the fedorov gets the option to be on moscow and Stalingrad and makes it that way the bolt action rifle mains don’t have to fight such weapons. Meaning the fedorov would fight German players with mp40, Gewehr 41’s mp717,and both German mg’s

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But MkB 35/III is BR2.

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I’m just saying why do people always spit on bolt actions. Why do people think I’d have a problem using a bolt action when there are assault rifles and machine guns afoot. All weapons have their place

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It doesn’t use full powered rounds.

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I guess its because no one really cares about how you feel, but rather about overall balance.

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I agree. However people always play the victim card and make the excuse of “what am I supposed to do with bolties against fedorov spam?”

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Does it matter for enlisted? It more matters it’s classified as AR.
Dmg per bullet can be easily tweaked as well. Federov already has different dmg than arisakas BA and so.

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Well, now the only thing that matters, is war thunder battle rating.

What ppl pushed devs so much to have, without understanding what it meant.

BR can’t (or rather shouldn’t, df does a shitty job at balancing br) be tweaked for immersion, or faction balancing or what not. Br should only take stats into account, period.

But what we have right now… yeah.

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No thanks i would leave the game. You are already too op with pps-43, winchester, BT-7A, T28E and ppsh-41 box at BR2-3 and you want more? Even if you nerf it’s firerate, reload speed and dmg it won’t be enough axis can’t compete in current BR2-3 and with one “new” gun it would be just waste of time to even que as them

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Give it more recoil, slower firerate, and stripper clip reload and it would fit t2 perfectly.

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All this would make it an insane semi auto still and those are mostly at BR 4 so no BR2 would be stupid.

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Here’s the thing though, in some ways BR is kind of historical in that usually the weaker things were made in early war and the Uber things were made in late war. It almost lines up historically but of coarse here and there are some standouts and mishaps, and personally I’d rather it be corrected

In my perspective that’s a good opportunity for asymmetrical balance where the factions have some niche items at whatever tier

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Fedorov Avtomat has 600 rpm in the game, while in reality it had about 350-400 rpm depending on version.
Fedorov is already more powerful than AS-44 which makes AS kind of pointless as it unlocked after Fedorov for some reason.
Fedorov most definetly needs rpm readjustment to its historical values, Im not sure about downtiering.

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