since PZ4H went BR3,KV1 zis5/KV2 should go BR3 too
(They are 3.7~4.0 just like PZ4F2~PZ4H at warthunder)
KV1 zis5 can’t pen/bear panther at br4 
,
KV2 has a long reload (30s 
), mostly no MG
PZ4F2 still pen them, infantry has PF60 , plane has bombs,
“not a problem to let them downtier”
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If kv1 zis5 go BR3, the new replace tank will be?
Smoke less weed dude, when does kv1-zis5 BR3.7-4.0? is 4.7 now!
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- no need for replacement, there’s is1 at BR4
- huh? I already quit Warthunder a long time … I don’t know they change the BR nasty…
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Even kv-1e is 4.3 now, PZ4H is 3.7, jagdpanzerIV is 4.3 so jagdpanzer should go to BRIII?
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unaccecptable, no one at br3 can pen that,even t34-57
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Just like how I can’t pen the Tiger II H at BR 5 (unless I aim for tiny weak spots) when it can penetrate me anywhere. Deal with it.
Most people here probably wouldn’t support your suggestion of dropping the KV-1 Zis-5 and KV-2 on the 3BR. But I’m not most people and I will support it. The KV-1 Zis-5 is useless garbage on the 4BR and moving it to the 3BR would give it life.
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Ahh, yes the famous tactic of straight up lying is sure to win an argument…
If that is the level of faith you want to argue with then just no…
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And move down the KV (L-11) to BR 2 because now that one would need to be given life now?
Do you see how stupid of an argument that is?
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No. We will not be moving the KV-1 L-11 to 2BR. Why? It already feels fine on 3BR, it’s good and powerful there. We don’t want to give life to something that’s already alive. Unlike KV-1 Zis-5, which is garbage on its own on 4BR, it is bad and weak there, it has no place there, it plays against Panther, which it practically can’t penetrate, but Panther penetrates it well and that makes KV-1 Zis-5 pretty useless.
Panzer IV J and Panzer IV H really makes no difference, well turret rotation speed is a buff I guess, but not that big of a difference…
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KV1 yes why not? german with 145mm Penetration still can destroy it easily.
but i am not sure about KV2…
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Not really if they can just angle by a few degrees and negate all of that pen.
Keep in mind that the KV also is uparmored.
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You can still destroy the KV by hitting the turret.
This is how we fight with panther and KT. Germans should not always be able to kill their enemy easily at any point.
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You can still kill the panther by hitting the MG port…
Does that fix the issue?
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Well, it’s a pixel hunt. But the turret is right in front of you.
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Well german 75 post pen is on the weaker side so even a turret shot isnt as effective as it should be.
But the soviets can almost always 1 hit kill so no they are not on an equal levels.
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But the turrets also has places of geometry that might fail to pen.
what?
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