KV1 obliterates BR 2

[SzepWaxweiler]

And also PZ III J1 having 106 MM of pen is enough to pen KV-1s 75 mm armor from every where even the gunshield which is 95 mm but every BR1 and 2 and soviet tank has to only go through the turret man what a hypocrites

@SzepWaxweiler

Not front pen all of the BR1 and 2 tanks can pen PZ IV J only from turret try it 45 mm cant(70 mm of pen at 0 meters) pen 80 mm of front armor and if they are angled good luck and L-10 canon is short infantry support cannon great HE but t-28 shrapnel round only has 31 mm of pen at zero meter wow and T-28Es APHEBC has 67 mm of pen at zero meters I don’t care about pz iv J as I never talked that they were unkillable in dowtier a single shot from T-28E to turret and they are dead since T-28Es round has great amount of filler

[SzepWaxweiler]

@TUSUPOLISI69

I thought you offered kill the gun & tracks solution ?

if only your tank isn’t capable of pening enemy tank from front yeah then I offer you this sulution

@TUSUPOLISI69

The solid APC has dogshit values post-pen.

And our tanks are filled to brim with ammo

@TUSUPOLISI69

Pretty much your idea

Taking the gunner wich is inside tank requires pening the tank that’s why I tell that you don’t think man try to chew the thing that you read

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@SzepWaxweiler

And also PZ III J1 having 106 MM of pen is enough to pen KV-1s 75 mm armor from every where even the gunshield which is 95 mm

and your video highlights rather well how well those shrapnells of yours works post-pen.

@SzepWaxweiler

BR1 and 2 and soviet tank has to only go through the turret man what a hypocrites

Had to actually go and try this, and yes BT7 ( BR1 ) can pen frontally every PZ4 & 3
not exactly sure what you are after here.

@SzepWaxweiler

if only you tank isn’t capable of pening enemy tank from front yeah then I offer you this sulution

Cool, so KT2 to br1 since you can detpack it ?

@SzepWaxweiler

And our tanks are filled to brim with ammo

Just like in your video ?

@SzepWaxweiler

Taking the gunner wich is inside tank requires pening the tank that’s why I tell that you don’t think man try to chew the thing that you read

And loss of 1 tanker equals as destroyed tank how ?

[SzepWaxweiler]

@TUSUPOLISI69

and your video highlights rather well how well those shrapnells of yours works post-pen.

YES but this was a tank without a crew you know that if you kill enemy tanks crew the enemy tank is going to explode right ar most it will take 2 shot with PZ III J1 to kill KV-1 3 crews on the turret and 2 on the hull simple yet you try to make it like its something impossable

@TUSUPOLISI69

Cool, so KT2 to br1 since you can detpack it ?

Try to play fool man they will not change KV-1 BR and even if they did I wouldn’t care a single bit

@TUSUPOLISI69

Just like in your video ?

YES but this was a tank without a crew you know that if you kill enemy tanks crew the enemy tank is going to explode right ar most it will take 2 shot with PZ III J1 to kill KV-1 3 crews on the turret and 2 on the hull simple yet you try to make it like its something impossable
and putting ammo under the deck is meant to make the tank more survivable also if you want 1 shot kill use Italian tank destroye

@TUSUPOLISI69

And loss of 1 tanker equals as destroyed tank how

Gunner is the one operating the gun without him in the picture you would have 5 more seconds to act which is enough to put the other tank in a more serious state than before
and

@SzepWaxweiler

if the problem is only KV-1 we can move it up the BR but in that case lets move pz iv J up a BR too I Mean 80 mm of hull armor is more than 75 mm of hull armor the difference being PZ IVs turret is 50 mm while KV-1 being 75 mm and not to mention having a worse gun that PZ IV J , PZ IV J having 145 mm pen while KV having 78

why not put both in BR 4

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@SzepWaxweiler

YES but this was a tank without a crew you know that if you kill enemy tanks crew the enemy tank is going to explode right ar most it will take 2 shot with PZ III J1 to kill KV-1 3

Theres quite big differency of shooting a tank ~2-7 times to snipe the crew out of it.
Than getting one shotted by APHE.

@SzepWaxweiler

simple yet you try to make it like its something impossable

Everything can be killed that never was the problem.
Balance is the problem here.

@SzepWaxweiler

Try to play fool man they will not change KV-1 BR and even if they did I wouldn’t care a single bit

Not sure why your spending so much energy defending it then ?

@SzepWaxweiler

Gunner is the one operating the gun without him in the picture you would have 5 more seconds to act which is enough to put the other tank in a more serious state than before
and

Gotcha, just got to snipe gunner, gun, tracks, then everyone 1 by 1 all the while the opposite tank can 1shot me.
Yeah totally balanced & reasonable.

[SzepWaxweiler]

this is my fing last massage in this thread

You want one shot with pz III J1 there shoot there

[TUSUPOLISI69]

Ah yes, just have to flank frontally to shoot the part of tank that is invisible 90% of time due to debriss on map.

You know you can also kill KT2 with BT7 ? The bottom is onyl 25mm thick so just get under the kt and deal with it.

Thanks champ.

[SzepWaxweiler]

Man this is joke Ah no APC dont do damage ah what am I gonna do
Me : shows a way to deal with it
HIm

@TUSUPOLISI69

You know you can also kill KT2 with BT7 ? The bottom is onyl 25mm thick so just get under the kt and deal with it.

Whatever man if you don’t wanna listen don’t listen we have saying here man " پنبه از گوش درآوردن"
It means somone who dont want to listen to others
Cheers mate enjoy your day

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@SzepWaxweiler

Man this is joke Ah no APC dont do damage ah what am I gonna do

Which rather well proves they aint balanced.

@SzepWaxweiler

Me : shows a way to deal with it

Could have just said use detpack or tnt, since yeah they still aint balanced.

@SzepWaxweiler

Whatever man if you don’t wanna listen don’t listen we have saying here man " پنبه از گوش درآوردن"
It means somone who dont want to listen to others
Cheers mate enjoy your day

Cool, english only btw.

[Rickyd123]

@TUSUPOLISI69

J1 both lacks APHE,

No they don’t, their shells are aphe

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@Rickyd123

No they don’t, their shells are aphe

since when APC has been aphe ?

[Rickyd123]

since always, it’s why they have an explosion behind armor instead of metal spalling like m72 though if m61 was added it would be called APCBC despite it’s actual name being APCBC-HE-T.

[TUSUPOLISI69]

Oh cool, so theres APHE but just not functioning one.

[Rickyd123]

oh no it functions it doesn’t do it well because the shell is filled with 29 grams of tnt as compared to 60 grams of m61, 63 grams of m62, and 150 grams of the l-11.

[TUSUPOLISI69]

since when IRL has been any kind of issue for the game ?

[Rickyd123]

Clearly not for war thunder, where the panther will 1 shot most tanks despite having the same grams of tnt as the j1

[TUSUPOLISI69]

Not exactly sure how the performance in wot is relevant ? Unfortunately I cant fight my enlisted games in wot.

[Rickyd123]

Coding is generally the same as war thunder(same company), so if a tank or tank round has certain features in war thunder it will likely have it in enlisted too

[TUSUPOLISI69]

And still the J1 is using pretty much AP, 0 differency.

[Overlander57]

@Cleetus_WA

relentless lines of Pz4J in virtually every match.

This is the real problem, they need to implement a way to limit vehicle and weapon spam. The next problem is the poor matchmaker that can’t assemble even matches.

The rest of this argument about which tank can kill another tank and how is boring and repetitive.