I do know but is not effective, you can also shoot the Big cats lower hull and destroy their transmissions, but that won’t kill the tank but immobilized them at best
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And no, is easier killing a Pz IV as Jumbo than killing a Jumbo as Pz IV, cuz one actually don’t need to aim to deal damage
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For starters I never said anything about ease of killing the jumbo in a panzer 4J, I just said that hey you can do a thing you might not know. Also the tiger 2 has 80 mil of armor below the track so you aren’t going through that, tiger 1 lower side you might depending on the game feeling that day and I already mention that you can do it with the panther
Now tell me Nelson, why shouldn’t the panzer 4J be moved to br4
Because it was moved from BR4 to BR3?
It simply needs to not be facing BR1 and BR2. That’s the real problem.
Given that I see it in, essentially, every BR2 US match with multiple players rolling it out I can only assume that people are just bailing if they get in a high tier match and waiting to get into low tier matches to wreak havoc.
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Oh yeah? How about the P38 with M8s? The FP planes with HVARs? They are absolutely broken in Low BR but people doesn’t seems to care? And somehow the Pz IV J suddenly matter when in practice it has no real difference compared to Pz IV G and F2? Since all dies/disabled single shot on the turret? And that’s only vehicles, the PPS42/43 overperform in BR2 even in BR3, but sure, totally not broken
The argument with people is KV1 gets pair to high BR, do you think the German BR3 doesn’t? Wth logic is that?
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I don’t find it problematic. It gets me now and then but there are good low BR planes in other factions too.
One that can be as versatile as P38 and FP planes and with rockets? Well try it
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so was the kv though you are calling for it to be upped because of it’s armor while the 4j does decent armor a pretty good gun and barely worse traverse than tiger 1e
Not sure what you’re saying. P38 is everywhere in BR2 (including my deck) and I have no issue with it.
I’m not seeing many HVAR in BR2. In fact, I don’t remember any. I’m seeing endless, relentless lines of Pz4J in virtually every match.
If you consider 50mm for turret armor that can get tapped by BR1 tank “decent”
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Mmmmm wdym? I can’t see Pz IV J in BR2 either
80mm of armor on the hull is good especially for a medium tank and definitely more turret armor than the t-34s until the 85 zis which was up armored to 90. oh, right the 4J gun is on par with every single BR4 tank cannon save the panthers
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If you play BR2 games as US you WILL see Pz IV J. You will see them over and over.
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So you are telling me a tank that cant pen shermans properly I try to pen a KV-1 man if you see KV-1s that often you might be better off bringing one of that tanks that has more pen bring a PZ III J 1 OR PZ III N with heat rounds in your line up or a puma or PZ III J or Italian tank destroyer All of them can pen KV-1
That why you lose the fight if you have the time to shoot the tracks why not shoot the barrel (canon) so he cant fire at you
The only good thing I heard in this conversation yeah lets separate br3 from 2 and 1 and also 4 and 5 and it would make my life easier
I wish I could I haven’t even researched KV-1 as a matter of fact I think it would be more scary for german players to not abuse something like PZ IV J
J / J1 both lacks APHE, so regardless if it pens, you most likely wont get a kill.
It was same sht in moscow with t-50 & T34.
Every tank shot is lethal in enlisted stop with that if you cant kill in one shot why not shoot the turret to take the gunner and breach out at the same time so they cant shoot and then you would have plenty of time to kill the tank
With that flawless logic of yours we could introduce KT2 to BR1 as german counter for KV1.
Just shoot the tracks so it cant move and wait till the crew bails out and kill them.
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If only there was a tank in BR 1 that could pen the tank yes but unfourtunetly there isn’t and stop being a idiot who cant read and think the simple thing is in enlisted every tank shot is lethal a shrapnel hitting a ammo might cause it explode like this example as long as it can pen the tank oh wait pz iii J /J1 puma Italian tank destroyer (through the front hatch can one shot KV-1) pz iii n with heat rounds all can pen the KV
changing the topic eh
check this sentence I say if you cant kill with one shot thet means the tank can pen the other tank but filler is not enough to cause a lot of damage so shoot the turret ah yeah I forgot man you don’t bother to read and change the topic to something else simply if the problem is only KV-1 we can move it up the BR but in that case lets move pz iv J up a BR too I Mean 80 mm of hull armor is more than 75 mm of hull armor the difference being PZ IVs turret is 50 mm while KV-1 being 75 mm and not to mention having a worse gun that PZ IV J , PZ IV J having 145 mm pen while KV having 78 and for I want one shot guys
I thought you offered kill the gun & tracks solution ?
Emphasize that MIGHT. The solid APC has dogshit values post-pen.
Pretty much your idea.