I agree that the amount of deaths doesnt represent skill, its the combination of the amount of deaths with the performance taking into account the squads you were using.
There’s nothing I hate more than having to stop doing something I like to do just because my team is unable to capture a point without dying 10 times, IMO dying more than 4 or 5 times to take a point is either a lack of skill or the enemy being stacked with OP stuff (which doesnt happens much, thankfully).
And yet you lost I won every single one plus you only have one screenshot tell you what I’ll do 4 or five games and screenshot each one so I can show you my shit skill level if my skill level is shit then you should’ve had more then 250 in kills not 199
Yes, I lost because I didnt care to help my team by using another squad. As I said, I was specifically asked to screenshot this, I had to play in a tank the whole round.
Not that it matters, everytime I get a team bad enough to not capture an easy first point I dont bother to win; I came to entertain myself, not to get stressed over having to carry the whole game.
Edit: Also, I never said you were shit, you said that yourself so you must believe you are.
And yet you did and you’re the reason you guys lost you camp in the back and we’re supposedly told to play tank and take a screenshot from who in-game teammates you don’t even know yeah that was probably you’re best game yet
Where did I say you were shit again? I didnt even say you werent good, I said “You aren’t that good”. Meaning that you aren’t so good at the game you would be beating people left and right, and certainly not good enough to make the claims you’ve made about a certain playstyle and my own skill.
Man do you even hear yourself
But if I only see one screenshot and you’re supposed 100s of kills every game sounds like you’re just making things up
Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? Since when is telling someone “You’re not that good” the same as “LMAO you’re shit at the game, you suck noob!!1!”? It’s not my problem that you have such a thin ego you need to defend yourself so much over this.
It’s not hard to make 100 kills every game for a lot of people, dude. I ain’t some kind of pro, its just that the average player is subpar at the game…
Okay this starts to turn into some kind of cringe bragging contest, further derailing the topic so this is gonna be my last contribution to it.
If it’s not reliable then you’re not relying on skill but chance. And if the chance to penetrate is THAT low (more than 80% of the shots on Jumbos Upper glacis seem to ricochet on even levels, the rest will do minimal post pen damage) then it’s an act of desperation and not a proper tactic.
And Jumbo beats Panther on shredding infantry. So what’s your point? This game is not War Thunder where tanks fighting tanks decides matches, infantry does. I would dare say that in overall usefulness the Jumbo is not that far behind to the Panther. So having them on equal lvls in the campaign appears fair. More fair than placing M10 vs Panther on 31.
Here we just have to agree to disagree. Except for the two D-Day maps and the airfield map to me Normandy mostly has narrow maps where if you want to support the infantry in their fight for one point you have to get rather close.
Kills are mistaken by some for the most important way of contribution. You can sit back and snipe bots galore but on the actual frontline there are still the player controlled soldiers of those squads doing the real work. In the end snipers (tanks and infantry alike) in this game rely extremely often on the performance of their teammates. If these do good they carry the sniper by allowing him to maintain his farming position of killing wave after wave. If your team struggles to get/hold the objectives these players do nothing really to change that and apply any kind of pressure on the opponent. They still will just look for getting as much kills as possible before the match ends in defeat. At least according to my experience in Enlisted. And like I suspect both of you do too I equally end up most of my matches on #1 position.
It doesn’t encourage long range either. Even to a greater extend. If tanks would have a Match deciding influence at maximum range - completely outside of infantry anti tank weapons - they would be broken.
I see you’re trying to stay mysterious when I hoped to hear your masterplan of where you aim at to hit a Jumbo with your first shot in a frontal duel to take him reliably out before he can take out your gun and render you close to useless. Sure you can try to repair and hope that your emerging crew won’t result in a few losses but there’s nothing that stops him from rinse and repeat or call for US airsupport to take you out while keeping you busy.
You’re clearly stuck in you’re own Delusioned world and there’s no point in arguing anymore
Id just like to point out right tool for the right job. Jumbo and Panther Arent the same class or role of tank…
M10s isnt great, but thats because its ONLY role is tank destroyer (not a brawler, a sniper). Jumbo is an assault tank with an infantry support gun…trade off is its not the best Anti tank weapon because that’s not its focus.
panther is different again. Its a medium tank with focus on killing tanks. none of them are in the same class
Waste so much time comparing stuff in Asymmetrical warfare.
I’m not trying to brag. I even ignored him initially until he went out of his way to tell me to reply, in the past I’ve said that I don’t care for dick measuring contest in this forum.
Not being reliable doesn’t equal requiring luck and not skill. For example, it’s like saying that you can’t reliably hit a 6-8’’ target with a handgun from 50+ yards in real life, yet people with good marksmanship do it all the time.
The only chance there would be “chance” is for the game to decide to do some bs in which the shot doesn’t behave the way it should. So the chance of pen from front isn’t nearly as low as you say it is, your experience isn’t an actual statistic even tho they can give an idea. I have no idea what you do to not pen 80% of times when on even levels.
Ok, and? What IS your point? This wasn’t about tank vs infantry, don’t try to strawnman me…
What’s “rather close” for you? Most maps of Omer, Le Bre, and Versurmer offer plenty of relatively long range positions. Its mostly the Axis that has to get a bit closer with the tank even in those maps, because they mostly can only attack the inside of the point and nothing else because of the layout. However, its only in certain points of the map, once those point get captured/lost you get another good position even with the bad layout for Axis.
I agree that kills don’t equal performance too, but its undeniable that if a guy in a tank is killing 5-15 player or bots in and around the point (along with enemy tanks), he is definitely helping his team without a doubt.
Its like a Jumbo on the beach in Versurmer: It has a really good view to enemy tanks and infantry post-spawn paths in the first two points while being nearly invincible, killing most bots from a squad will mean that when the player dies he can’t just swap and defend again.
Yeah, I don’t mean completely out-of-harm when saying long range. Its about being as far as the enemy infantry being mostly unable to destroy you with anti-tank weapons or explosive packs without them dying, and as far as not getting easily shot on the sides by other tanks.
There’s no mystery, no idea what you do, but all I do is aim around where the gunner is and shoot there. I don’t have to destroy his horizontal drive, his turret, his whole crew, or straight up the tank, for me to stop him from shooting back. Even if I dont achieve the gunner kill, its rare to see a player smart enough to aim for the barrel of my cannon.
Emerging crew isnt a problem, you can just get a single crew to go out and repair, if he gets shot then its usually your fault. US airsupport, even less coordinated and accurate, is pretty rare in such a short amount of time.
That’s it? “You’re wrong I am right”, pretty convincing argument… Crazy how I am delusional for saying that a lot of players get 100 kills every game, go ask Rambo or Younique if you don’t believe me.
When did I ever say that fuck you don’t listen
You said I was delusional, yet never explained why. You expect me to have seer-like abilities or something? You really have problems with reading comprehension…
they have the version which you have to buy for
Normandy beach were a region in france call normandy, which indeed there was panzer4, panther and tiger present in the region which was mostly fighting the British only some of the them were fighting the americans