Mostly cause the MTs there can pen each other anyway.
for this they must be the first if not it makes no sense to use them if they are weaker than the starter tank
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Just had another M10 vs Panther range battle from opposing runway sides on the airfield map. Itâs far from being a fair encounter even if you forget about the horrible turret traverse.
The M10 requires quite a bit of skill with aiming and luck with dispersion to find a Panther spot to penetrate while the Panther can pretty much do a 360° noscope on you as every hit will penetrate your paper armor.
It simply doesnât deserve its top end campaign position - except if youâre looking for a real challenge. Against PzIV itâs something different. It actually performs decent against them and feels like an ok upgrade to the 75mm Sherman.
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I destroyed a lot of panthers with the m10 him does his job but he can only do that, I donât understand why you expect from a tank destroyer the performance of an Abrams
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Basically has the same gun as the Firefly. Mantlet is not a real issue⌠at least compared to the bugged mg port of the Jumbo.
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Bro even fully upgraded the turret traverse sucks ass but I still use
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Is normal m10 is made to detonate tanks miles away not in direct combat, map size is the problem, too small to use for use him well
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Huh? Are we playing the same game at all? All you just said doesnât sound like Enlisted at all, it nearly almost sounds like a good, balanced game.
No they donât, it can also pen directly from the front of the hull. Even then, aiming at the turret ring is also pretty easy.
In what alternate universe do tanks have to be going on close range to be good? I can assure you that nearly every player in this forum will tell you that you want range, even one of the biggest tank-related complaints is them camping far into the gray zoneâŚ
Going close is like asking to get shot from all sides by other tanks or players with anti-tank weapons, along with getting spammed to hell with explosive packs.
Thatâs following the fantasy of a Panther being dumb enough to actually be right next to the point and doing what every good tanker wouldnt do. The guy in the Panther also can just get one crew member out and repair, which completely makes your damage pointless and gives him the chance to shoot at you or retreat.
I dont expect anything over the top from that tank. What I expect is that the campaign lvls reflect an improvement of power the further you advance. Jumbo at lvl 20 is like StG44 at lvl 20 and G43 on 31. It doesnât make sense.
That being said the Thunderbolt would possibly end up top position either over the Mustang. At least with Enlisteds heavy focus on ground battles and how to influence them.
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No no no no no no why the hell would you do thatâs not fun canât support infantry canât get kills you donât get flanked if you kill them all before so your playing tanks wrong if you do that shit just 130 kills with the panther last night the second highest kills was 29 on my team
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the jumbo is not as great as you think it is a tank made on purpose just to stand behind to give support, exactly like the m10, the difference between the two is that the jumbo is made for close range support and is fine for current maps , m10 on the other hand would have to stay much further back to be able to take out any German tank without problems
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Wait, what do you think being at a range means? When you go far away do you go in a place you cant kill people and tanks from? If you werent able to get top on the team far into gray zone, wouldnt you think there would be nearly 0 complaints of tanks doing so?
Also, you cant âkill them allâ unless they are bad. Or are you omniscient and are able to know all the tanks, anti-tanks, and commandos aiming at your tank? Unless you also live in an alternate universe in which your team actually protects you from enemy players and mark everything they see every timeâŚ
Nope im just better then them itâs not hard
Tanks itâs not hard
The last three were back in December
-Two in Airfield, automatically become irrelevant.
-Other two has enemies filled with subpar players, along with relatively decent teammates.
Also, the fact that you got so many deaths that mostly didnt reflect performance yet still felt the need to screenshot them, tells me your overall skill level. Like, even dying more than 4 times in Airfield while in a tank is pretty embarrassing unless you did it in purposeâŚ
Not reliably. Everyone with a Panther can test that on the practice range himself. Even point blank most shots on the upper glacis wonât even penetrate and the âeaseâ of hitting the turret ring entirely depends on the range of the engagement. While the same counts vice versa I dare say itâs even easier for the Jumbo to hit the Panthers gun.
This is a game with a lot of narrow maps, lots of close quarter encounters and lots of obstructions to the points where your team wants to see you support them with your firepower. Of course you can sit back at a save distance like those sniper players and kill a few enemies each minute but most of the time these players donât contribute much if anything to the success of their team.
To me the only real skill required for tank players in this game is to know the proper balance between getting too close to be in danger of becoming an easy target and being too far away and not being able to contribute properly. If youâre so far back that you donât have to fear anyone flanking you (either dedicated infantry or tankers) youâre usually too far back.
Now would you in return answer the question I asked you before?
Care to explain how that âpretty easyâ looks like when you do it?
Ok show me yours then I donât camp in greyzone I stay up front with infantry tell me you get at least 80 kills every game I bet you donât cuz I definitely do amd I fully expect to die a couple of times games not fun if you donât
Doesnât matter that you canât âreliablyâ do it, you said you werenât able to but now say that you can but without 100% success. Panther beats Jumbo every time unless the guy in the Panther is subpar, and since at least half of them are is the only reason it works in the first place. That, or you get a complete drop on the Panther because you spent a good time flanking it without being detected.
Sure, in like a few maps or in Berlin, most other maps including the ones in Normandy have plenty of positions in which you can be in relative safety while still having a clear view to the point and areas around it, sometimes even directly to the enemyâs tank spawn.
Same question as I did to the other guy:
People complain about them because they can and do get a bunch of kills.
Of course, thatâs why battling in close proximity in a tank is a bad option most times. This game doesnât encourage close battles in a tank; just the existence of squads full of explosive packs is living proof of it.
As easy as just aiming at it? Thats how I always take out the gunner before finishing off the other crew along with the turret horizontal drive right after. Like, some weeks ago a guy made a post complaining about not being able to one shot a Jumbo with a Panther from a direct shot in the hull, if it was that hard to get a direct shot with it I doubt that post would exist at allâŚ
You gonna answer my question I think not cuz you suck
I think you two guys simply have different opinions on what a proper performance looks like.
Some have no problem dying for the team if it aids to carry it. Personally I also find it rather ridiculous to identify the quality of your play by the times you died in a match. As if youâd only sit in tanks for the whole match that this number even becomes remotely representative for your tankers performanceâŚ
I would rather suspect players who have less than 4 deaths in a match to be campers who just want to amount kills over being actually useful or willing to do what it takes to help their team to fulfill the objective.
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Why so impatient for attention? You arenât that good, and so donât deserve to be proven my skill level⌠but since you insist so much I will reply:
I literally get 100+ kills every game unless its one that ends up quickly, or I was busy taking a bunch of vehicles, or I was messing around doing almost nothing. Thatâs the difference between you and me; I donât feel the need to screenshot a game I do well in, because I always do well.
This is literally the only screenshot I have, and the reason I did it was because I was specifically asked to by somebody. It was a couple months ago or something like that, clearly its not that hard to not die and get a bunch of killsâŚ