Just do not forget that absolutely most of the losses of the USSR are peaceful, non-military people, women, old people, children. The military losses of the Red army and the axis countries are 1.3:1 and this is due to the extremely unsuccessful start of the war for the USSR. And yes, China probably lost the most ~30 million in WWII.
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In the past history, the Soviet Union has assisted China in the northern expedition, the Anti Japanese War and so on. When Germany and Italy jointly invaded Spain, the Soviet Union actively assisted the Spanish government against Germany and Italy. For example, when Britain and France sacrificed Austria and the Czech Republic to allow Hitler to invade, the Soviet Union tried to expose the dark curtain of the Munich policy. This series of actions showed the clear-cut attitude of the Soviet Union towards the war.
The Soviet army attacked Poland in order to recover its own territory and liberate weak and small nations. At the same time, it was also a specific step to stop the expansion of German aggressive forces to the East and break Chamberlain’s plot.
In the autumn of 1939, Finland decided to mobilize all reservists in the name of special exercises. In fact, this exercise means that the Finnish army secretly completed the war mobilization. For obvious reasons, the Finnish army did not use the word “mobilization” (because mobilizing the army is almost equivalent to declaring war), but they still managed to concentrate their forces in the main defense zone. In October and November 1939, the Finnish army also continued to repair fire points and fortifications, and carried out intensive battalion and company roster combat training, carried out live fire and emergency tactical courses, and repeatedly conducted counter attack drills for the Soviet army to go out of the main defense zone trenches.
Haha, Finland, while holding high-profile peace talks, disguised itself as pathetic, secretly and madly colluded with the British and French imperialists in an attempt to be a pawn of the British and French imperialist aggression？
The plan of Anglo American and French countries is to push Germany to attack the Soviet Union, and they “sit on the mountain and watch the tiger fight” by themselves. After the Soviet Union and Germany are exhausted, they come out to clean up the situation. This conspiracy was broken by the Soviet German non aggression treaty. People did not pay attention to this kind of conspiracy and the conspiracy of British and French imperialism to connive at war, provoke war and promote the outbreak of World War, which was really fooled by the sweet propaganda of these conspirators. These conspirators, on the issue of Spain, on the issue of China, on the issue of Austria and the Czech Republic, not only have no intention of stopping aggression at all, but on the contrary, they connive at aggression, provoke war. They call it “non-interference”, but actually “sit on the mountain and watch the tiger fight”. How many people in the world were deceived by the sweet speeches of Chamberlain and his partners, did not know that when Chamberlain and daladi were determined to reject the Soviet Union and to carry out an imperialist war, the Soviet Union and Germany concluded a non aggression treaty; Now these people should wake up. The Soviet Union maintained world peace to the last moment in this way, which is the manifestation of the mutual consistency between the interests of the Soviet Union and the interests of the majority of mankind.
Chamberlain’s policy is: on the one hand, block the Germany on a large scale and oppress the Germany; On the one hand, it attempts to unite with the United States to bribe Italy, Japan and the Nordic countries to stand on their own side to isolate Germany;
On the other hand, they took Poland, and even prepared to take Hungary and Romania as gifts to lure Germany.
In short, various methods of coercion, coercion and inducement were used by him to promote Germany to abandon the Soviet German non aggression treaty and make it reverse its guns and attack the Soviet Union.
Don’t you understand?
When you compare Nazism to communism, you are already insulting the 1.4 billion people of China and the 300million people of the Soviet Union, as well as leftists around the world (such as Chaplin, Marilyn Monroe, you are insulting them at the same time).
If you don’t understand, I don’t want to say anything more, because your thoughts have been solidified.
What else can you do besides discredit Mao Zedong and Stalin? Have you seen them? You were slaughtered by them? If the answer is no, what reason do you have to say that they are murderous? With Russian shit files? (the foundation of the Russian Federation is against communism, and there can be no objective data) or by your hearsay during the Cultural Revolution? You don’t even know the Chinese people’s view: even if Deng Xiaoping constantly exaggerated the impact of the cultural revolution, the Chinese people still greatly admire Mao Zedong and hope that he will come back to solve Deng Xiaoping’s mess.
Believe it or not. You can continue to gossip. Anyway, the Chinese people and the Soviet people, as well as the peace and democracy loving people all over the world, will never believe your nonsense.
You don’t even know what communism is. His idea, theory and scientific justification. The question is to implement a specific idea in practice. You have absolutely no knowledge, instead you have complete lying nonsense in the spirit of the Cold War in your head. I am not a supporter of communism. I must tell you, to be honest, that it was Russia and the Russian people who suffered the most from communism. In Soviet times, the Soviet republics lived much better than Russia - Georgia, Ukraine, the Baltic States, etc. And the countries of the socialist camp lived much better than the entire USSR, this is East Germany and Hungary, etc. In no empire in the world, in the entire history of mankind, there was no such thing that the “center” lived worse than its “colonies”. And it is impossible to speak only negatively about the USSR. The USSR had a gigantic number of achievements: Victory in the most gigantic war of mankind-DVD (the main contribution), the first satellite in space, the first animals in space, the first man in space, the first woman in space, the first human spacewalk-this is all the USSR. The USSR had the strongest science and education, a lot of inventions. The USSR had completely free education, medicine, people were given housing for free. The USSR had a strong sport, an army. The USSR had a wonderful culture - films, music, literature, which today in Russia have become stunning unfading classics. The USSR controlled half of the world. We can talk for a very long time about the various achievements of the USSR.
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Dude dont say shit on the spain using your immagination, it was a civil war, nationalist was backed up by portugal,italy,germany volunter, republican by soviet and french volunter, the war was a lot complex 1936 spanish civil war was the culmination of shit made by past government wo end up in blood, dont change the history for have reason in your fucking argoument, and stop spamming politic is a game forum im tired of this
@VerTun @DieJagdente @ReachForTheSky @TheElite96 close this shit please, and do something about those guy wo keep spamming politic and alternate communist history on the forum
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really? Is your country a republic or extreme nationalism? Do you think the fascist dictator in Spain is just?
Franco’s right-wing army destroyed the peace of the Spanish Republic and provoked civil war. Am I wrong?
Think about who was the first to discredit the Soviet Union’s contribution in World War II, haha
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You are a lying, stupid person who has the dumbest propaganda in the spirit of the Cold War in his head. There were repressions and no one denies them, but they were on a much, much smaller scale. And what Britain, the USA and the West as a whole did - with blacks, Indians, etc. That the USSR is an innocent lamb compared to Western countries. Here’s an exaggeration: statistics of the population of the USSR in the English (pro-Western version of Wikipedia). The population of the USSR grew at a gigantic pace! And pay attention to the years of Stalin’s rule. The 20 million that Stalin killed" is a complete lie, even taking into account the WWII, this figure cannot be in any way. Also, in all the socialist countries controlled by the USSR, the population grew at a gigantic pace.
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yes. Both the Soviet Union and China industrialized at an astonishing rate and were far away from the effects of the terrible economic crisis. Many people slander them just because they are afraid of the reappearance of the Soviet Union
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They simply do not know the facts and are poorly educated. The West today is an empire of lies. It all reminds me of how Western lying hypocrites criticize China because of the Uighurs.
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I admit that the Chinese government has some lies. However, our country never fabricates data to ridicule other countries. I am a communist and an internationalist. I sincerely hope that the people of the world will unite and reduce prejudice. Our only enemy is the creatures that exploit people, not the people of any country
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1 First stop lying and talking nonsense. 2 Get a normal education and knowledge. 3 Get the false propaganda nonsense in the spirit of the Cold War out of your head.
4 And stop blaming other people for what you are much more guilty of.
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Lets see what moderators think about two guy spamming commie argoument and alternate history in a game forum and pretend to be in the right
Tldr
“A game forum”
“Not discord”
“Not reddit”
“Not telegram”
“A game forum”
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BLIND？
You are only allowed to talk about politics, and we can’t correct the mistakes? Can’t friendly discussion? Funny
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I have a lot of word by you but i get banned
Mr
Spain was invaded by italy and germany and the heroic soviet union help here to defend herself
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it’s funny how people get so easley offended by text on a screen, can’t really get puns, and have to be so loud and political about it.
astonishing isn’t it?
now, back to the thread, well, yeah, i’m not sure as someone said it would be really a good idea to celebrate such a thing, but at least get something for that said campaign would have been nicer.
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I never discuss politics first, but some people first say some untrue historical information. I have to do this.
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You are the first to start writing false nonsense, and when you get a reasoned answer, you start blaming other people. Forward all your claims to yourself, because you are always the first to start and you are the first to blame for this. You always start writing nonsense first.
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you do.
and to be honest, west and east don’t really get along within this forum as i see.
but i don’t really get all your wall of text about it.
but, i don’t really care.
you do you, i do what i think is more aproriated.
but please stick to the thread at hand.
( same works for the others, but i ain’t a moderator nor i want to be one. although that says alot about the situation regarding everything else )
That uhm worked well I guess. Like five minutes after the Tommy made a deal with devil, the commie came and made a even better deal with the devil. Making the same deal but with annexations is so much better.
Hmm Sounds pretty much like
and not like “peace” and warning about Munich.
And they were that gratefull that the Nazis had masses of volunteers in those nations five seconds after the start of Barbarossa (despite their oppression), even in the SS. Were the Baltics not one the first repeublics who wanted to left the USSR? I think they are pretty gratefull.
Btw. how hard would have been the Polish Invasion for the Germans if they would have one enemy and not two? Same level as the lack of Western Allied “support”.
And regarding weak…
Wasnt that the same time where the Soviets demanded clay from the Finns and previously invaded the Baltics? Iirc the Soviets also had plenty of troops in the border region by the time.
Btw. the Poles also prepared soft mobilisation after the Germans annexed Prague. Why? Conclusion made in China: The Poles triggered WW2.
Consider that the Soviets later faked a border incident I guess the Soviets were not that honest in those “talks” as well.
Hmm The Soviets invaded five countries and did it for peace but the Allies sell the Czechs to buy time and thats agression? Lol.
Or because at least Britain had a unprepared army (navy and airforce was “okay”) which wasnt strong and modern unlike the Germans and the French goverment wasnt even able to really support the Republicans due to politcal issues and lack of war support.
Hmm At first the Soviets wanted to shwo the issues of Munich, now they wanted to cover up a Anglo-French conspirancy?
Stick to one story and not two.
You complain that the Westerns are imperialists and at the same time you complain that they dont interfere in wars to protect their interests?
Stick to one story and not three.
Still better than joining the Tiger guess.
Why didnt they join the Nazis then if they only care about the Soviets? Why did the Allies help the Soviets in 1941 instead of letting them die (especially with the communist hardliner Churchill)?
Stick to one story and not four.
Which is why they declared war against German in 39 because that… wouldnt make sense according to the two million conspirancies they had according to you but they still did it.
Yeah. A Commie China Clown who hate it when people from “outside-China” teach him about the Chinese historiy, wants to teach us Europeans about their history. A Commie China Clown who said that there are no proofs for Maos crime, spreads ten million conspirances about the Western Allies which are mostly not logical both historical and basic-wise.
Said the same dude who want ecomonical collapses and genocides against capitalists.
Since they are dead, they probably dont care. And I guess unlike you Charlie Chaplin has balls to not feel offended.
Dude, do you believe your crap? How many times did you say now to ignore me both in public and private and people like @gastanofrizzi as well?
And now you replied to me two times now to politcal and historical stuff and I think thats less than one or two days ago where you said that you want to ignore me.
Sorry to offend you and 10 billion commies, but I don’t take you serious because you don’t have a grit and bc you are inconsistent with your actions and words. Maybe stop being the definition of flip-flopping, and then we can see if you actually fulfill your own standards.
Discrediting Castro, Hitler, the monarchs in North Korea, Joe Biden, Merkel, Berlusconni, Johnson, Chamberlain, Hollande, Erdogan, Bin Laden, Reagan, the Bush clan, Donald Trump, the plebs who ruled ISIS, Scholz, the Greeks and much more.
Its boring just to make fun of commies but sadly you are the most and sole entertaining ones here since woody left us. And you are by far the funniest one and that without looking at your politcal view.
We should bet how long you are going to ignore me this time. A day? Two days? Oh boy.
Nah but 20mio / at least 45mio people and I dont need their shit here after Nazis, DDR and 16 years of “Muttikratie”.
Said someone who said we should take state press and words from Mao from the CCP as ojective and valid data. Oh wait, at the same time you said you dont trust your goverment
And you dont know the European view. Yet you smartbutt here about our history and know what happened in Nazi Germany and what the Allied leaders thought.
My grandgrandpa still wants Hitler back but I dont care because I dont wanna have Hitler back.
Since he is dead, really unlikely.
The Soviets are gone so they cant really believe anymore.
And Soviet Union and Red China are the best example of democracy.
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You cant never laugh at a joke good, be offended
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