from top to bottom Stamm-Saurer M1913 TypeI, Mannlicher-Dätwyler pistol carbine, Furrer 1921 carbine, N33, M29A, KE9, two Model U, two AK44, two SK46
Schmidt-Rubin?
The N33 is one of a series of Swiss prototype semiautomatic rifles developed between WWI and WWII (the “33” refers to 1933). This particular design is interesting because it fires from an open bolt, a feature generally seen on light machine guns. An open bolt rifle typically is more difficult to shoot accurately because of the time between trigger pull and firing as the bolt travels forward to load a cartridge before firing it.
This is an exceptional example of a rare early Swiss prototype semi-automatic sniper rifle. There is very little information on this specific rifle. However, based on the configuration, it is assumed it was probably manufactured circa 1940-43 as it is a blend of several semi-automatic rifle designs in use at that time, primarily the Russian Tokarev Rifle. Some of the most notable features is that it has a fixed side mounted bolt handle with a tilting (or dropping) bolt, the same style small flip safety lever mounted directly behind the trigger, and the same shortened stock and handguard that uses the separate perforated metal heat shields on the front end. The barrel also uses a gas block, bayonet lug and somewhat similar muzzle break all probably based on the Russian Tokarev design. It also employs a gas piston system with a long operating rod as used on both the Russian Tokarev and the German G43 rifle systems. The bolt top cover is actually just like the Swedish Ljungeman semi-automatic rifle. It is equipped with a side mounted Swiss periscope type sniper rifle scope, developed circa 1941/42 that was eventually used on the K31/42 sniper rifles.
The SIG company of Neuhausen Switzerland spent the 1920s, 30s, and 40s working on developmental semiauto rifles to sell both to the Swiss military and abroad. One of the experimental models in the succession of designs was the Model U, of which 16 were made in caliber 7.5x55mm Swiss. It was a gas-tappet operated action with a tilting bolt, and included a permanently mounted 1.8x optical sight on the left side of the receiver (the same type as used in the K31/42 marksman’s rifle). The Model U was made in 1942 and 1943, to typical Swiss levels of quality and precision. Like the designs both before and after, it was a valuable iterative step for SIG but not a rifle which would find any military or commercial sales.
Switzerland did trade with Japan in WW2.
But as I have said in my topic, we can’t really prove that the mentioned guns were used by Japan.
Though I suppose that well documented Swiss guns are preferable over weird Japanese prototypes that don’t even have a picture of them anymore.
as for used well with the size off ww2 it is hard to tell anything, look ate Germany and Japan and there last ditch weapons
or the constant use of enemy weapons
SWISS MPKO MACHINE CARBINE. SN 3538. Cal. 9mm. 12"**
its also better than cloning a lot of things from German or Russia
In 1940 the Swiss began the search for a new semi-automatic pistol to replace the Luger P06/29. Both SIG and Waffenfabrik (W+F) Bern developed designs. Bern initially offered the P43 series, a clone of FN’s GP35/High Power.
The GP35/High Power was John Browning’s final pistol design, after his death in 1926, Dieudonné Saive continued to refine the design. The GP35 was used by both the Axis and Allies during the Second World War and gained a combat proven reputation. It’s high,13-round, magazine capacity was a significant improvement over many earlier semi-automatic pistols.
The Pistol 43 is in almost every respect a copy of the High Power, down to the short recoil action, grips and controls. The 9x19mm P43 also had a similar double stack magazine and frame shape. W+F Bern made approximately forty P43s with some variation in controls. At least one later pistol, serial number #40, did not have a manual slide release (see image #3 & #4). Earlier pistols had a direct copy of the High Power’s slide release. Another variation was the earlier prototype pistols had smaller FN-style safety levers (see image below).
Early and later P43 prototypes, note the variation in grip and safety (from Handguns of the World, Ezell)
Unlike the High Power the P43′s hammer was more enclosed, reminiscent of the Soviet TT-33, but still accessible. Some examples, including serial number #33 appear to have cast frames with the rough surface still visible on the front strap and near the trigger (see images #1 & #2). This would have lowered the manufacturing cost and simplified production. Other differences include serial number #40′s use of a sliding disassembly latch on the left side of the frame instead of Browning’s system. In 1947 W+F Bern also offered the gas-delayed blowback Pistole 47, however, the Swiss military rejected both Bern designs in favour of SIG’s entry which was adopted in 1949 as the Selbstladepistole SP/49 (commercially offered as the P210).
I fully support this idea. The KE7 is awesome and the Japanese tree is quite empty compared to the other factions. I too hate prototype weapons that were barely on a drawing board at the end of the war.
Adding more Swiss weapons would be good, its also an opportunity to of course get Swiss weapons in the game. Japan makes the most sense, after all Germany already has enough weapons.
Naturally we arent asking for Swiss squads or whatnot just weapons.
thanks for supporting my idea, the swiss sold a lot of weapons to japan
it would add variety without paper weapons, yes
and much love for swiss being included just don’t ask about nazi gold
