I've invested in this game and really concerned (long!)

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I know its another post about speculative changes the devs are making, but unless they want to lose long term fans like myself, they really should listen. I have supported the devs and have bought multiple premiums over the years this game has been in beta, I even have a budget just in case I want something else too, but these changes infer that all of these premiums will just be superceded by a new ‘super’ army’s, negating any need to use the majority of my premiums.

What I enjoyed about Enlisted was the fact I could fly my new premiums in enlisted when I wanted to, when I didn’t want to sweat it out, or I could go on Berlin and use my new TDs for a bit of variety. Or Calliope on Normandy, to help balance out against high level axis.

All of this seems to be going, I know we have to wait and yes I know the game needs to do something, but as I say in the title I and many other have spent thousands of dollars, not to see this game become a historical, random as to maps (not campaigns anymore), this really is totally against what I enjoy, why I did dailies, why I stuck with this game since CBT.

@1942786 if you care, which I think you do, whatever you decide mm or campaign related, cannot take away our freedom of choice like I mention above please.

Custom games are not the solution, I can imagine it now, 25 custom games, where people have bespoke restrictions ie no Is2 but allow KTII, or no Stg but Federovs allowed, it will just become a bunch of random servers with a bunch of tweaks, it will also likely mean avg of 5 players in these customs so not enough to earn XP…

As for playing against the same level, we do play against high levels when fighting in our clan lead events, it is sometimes enjoyable, but sometimes it’s not fun to go against 8 Marshall’s, I don’t want to sweat every time I play this game, I like the fact that as end gamer, I can help the random new players out and help them learn how to play Enlisted and give them the support they need.

Finally, some of the decisions and major changes the devs did listen to feedback, but this time it seems like that like the wood penetration, sweeping changes will be made which will negate the need for my premium squads, which I supported this game with and had fun with! That random mm, means I won’t be able to chose a chilled fight on Tunisia practicing how to use my new shiny p40.

The new changes imply it will just be about meta and what wins. I know there will be is2s on Moscow because that is what will win, it will just take one person, then others will counter next match with their own high level stuff, until we are all using highest armoured, biggest guns and most bombs on aircraft.

There are a lot of suggestions being fedback, we don’t want a Q&A session, we for a change like this would want it Alpha tested first, not just by devs but some of our long term players who don’t have killwhore views and enjoy enlisted for what it is now, to then compare to what it will be in the future. If once they have feedback and devs tweaked things would we as a player base be more open to proposed radical changes.

TLDR: Don’t take the fun or choice of out this game.

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For ba-11 and stug III and those premium squads dusty in the warehouse, can I choose and fun?

In general I’m not hoping the development team makes too drastic changes too quickly.

But I don’t think the current game is selective and fun. You have no choice, or can only live with something boring and repetitive.

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Why would you use ba11, knowing that you will likely face high level KTII, personally I love the BA11 it’s fun and a challenge to use, but knowing that I couldn’t make any difference to the enemy armour, I would pull my su100, Is2 instead, I would likely have my stalingrad engineers, my Berlin mortar teams, my plane choices fwD from Berlin with all those bombs, or the one from Normandy vs my Typhoon, Mosquito, ignoring any semblance of historical accuracy just take what will win.

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I don’t know why you say this, your choice is currently I’m going to fly all game, I’m going to sit back and mortar in Tunisia, what do you mean no choice? Sorry not attacking you, open to civil discussions but confused by what you said.

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Every time I see this kind of problem, I will think of the feeling that I just want to play this game, but I am gradually unwilling to click to start game button.

I’m here to play the game, and everyone wants to choose to be a character in this Enlisted battleground. But in the current game, you can’t choose, you can only choose to rush into the point with automatic weapons and explosives and various flames.

Why can’t I use ba-11, yes other than suffering, what you call challenging.

Other than that, I can’t use it, and even I beat panzer IV with him without any sense of accomplishment, because the enemies just spam it all infinitely.

ba-11 is just one example. There are a lot of useless things in the game. Since the player only has to choose the best weapon to win, or suffer, they don’t have much choice.

No player equips their squad with 9 bolt-action rifles just for the challenge, right? Well, maybe there is such a player, I hope he finds happiness in the game, and he should find happiness in the game. Maybe there are players like me, but I can’t make that choice. Because I was forced to shoot each other with pewpewpew opponents in a 200 meter field.

Yep, the question should be asking the developers what reason they intend to tell players they should buy and choose these things.

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Here is a screenshot, few days ago my friend asked me if he should buy it, BM-8-24

For example, some unique gaming experience doesn’t officially exists yet.

But these things are USELESS in the current game, current default game mode, it’s just a clown, if you want to win the game you just need to choose T-34 and T-28. This is no choice.

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Overall, I agree of most of the description in the post.

My main confusion is that the kind of scenario you describe, that’s what’s happening in the game. In the current game you will only encounter 3 situations.

  • Sweaty battles, annoying players immediately hit ESC to quit the game, some players will stay but the final number always becomes unbalanced.

    • If you choose stay in such game, that is the sweaty battles you describe. pewpewpepw explotion suicide planes and powerful vehicle spam everywhere
    • In this case, you may defeat the enemy, or be suppressed in your default spawn point, and your teammates’ names will be grayed out one by one and replaced by AI. You become one of the robots in the robot farm.
    • You try to help them, maybe they are newbies, you call for a spawn point, but no one answers you. In rare cases you can form some collaborations, sorry most of the time it doesn’t exist.

  • The mode you hate, the player who hates it immediately clicks ESC to exit the game

  • Robot farm battles, or rookie battles where a few skilled players beat all

    • Some players welcome this. But for me he couldn’t stick to me.

These don’t happen in the future, they happen now.

That’s maybe the causes that what I mean by no choice, you can’t choose a mode and you can’t choose a character in the game.

For example, I drive a ba-64 or sdkfz222 to hunt high-level tanks and provide scouting for teammates. Sorry, there is no such option in this game, from a rational point of view.

But they can exist. Maybe in the future.

So I don’t think the changes in the development team will make the current bad situation worse.

The only difference is that maybe will have more players will come together, and you’ll encounter fewer robot farm battles, which means more sweaty games.

Yeah I don’t really like that either, because in the small map, I don’t like the sweaty CQC fights where you can barely breathe and enjoy the game.

I suggest they make an easy PvE mode for this.

Or let custom battles play a bigger role. I think it will.

They should add a play button for custom battles so gamers can easily match custom games.

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I hate changes.

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I have that rocket tank, I have all of them, that one in particular is very niche when it can be used, I sometimes put in my line up on Moscow when soloing, just for a challenge or to even the side when majority of people remaining on my team are silvers…

I don’t play to win, I equip i-16 because it’s fun, I have the lagg too, but I change them up, since the devs tweaked damage, they are fun to use, one has ground attack potential the other doesn’t… but they are both FUN.

I won’t get started on quitters, we don’t always know reason why, but I want to keep this post on topic.

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The main description has been added above. I can understand your description, but I don’t agree with your reasoning logic about “Don’t take the fun or choice of out this game.”, because the game has already no choice with fun.

How do you take out something that no longer exists?

Yes, of course I can choose to play a happy clown, but I prefer that he is not a clown, but has some meaningful logic for the outcome.

It’s like I’m flying in the sky as a plane (happy clown and doesn’t care about winning or losing) and the skilled players on the ground are complaining why I don’t play a suicide missile, which is some cases that will already appear in the game.

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To long to read someone can summarize this with 10 word?

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A don’t be toxic please, don’t reply if nothing constructive to say…

I am merely stating my opinion, why I play the game and what I hope devs consider before rolling out change.

Also is there aything wrong with suggesting they alpha test this, @gastanofrizzi AND @Shiivex are to name a few people who could add some constructive, unbiased feedback before rolled out globally.

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Ok i suggest you really to read the 780 post in news topic

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Is not meta
Is stated a lot that the equipment you use let you play in a determineted map

I use germany for the example

Kar98k+g41+mp40/38/35+mg13/34+panzer4E/panzer3J/Stuka/Bf= moscow,tunisia,stalingrad

Kar98k+zk29/g43+mp35/zk-383/mkb×mg34/42+panze3J/pz4F2/Stuka/BF= tunisia,stalingrad,normandy

Fg42+kar98GL+mkb/mp43/stg44+mg42/15+tiger/FW/BF110=normandy,berlin

We need only know and suggest what type of BR the matchmaking need use for this

Avarage weight? Max weight? Ecc…

Other than some squad preset for swap equipment and change map selectiom withaut do it manually and brok our hand

You get more choice and freedom with the soon™ update than with the actual game

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imagine simping a game for years and then complaining when you realize they’re in it just for the money.

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This game needs a change. We cannot keep splitting the playerbase up with multiple campaigns. It will die a slow death

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I does. Especially since they want to add TWO other campaigns (tech trees? Dunno what it’ll be) this year alone.

A mm is needed, and grind must be reduced. Everyone (I think? I hope?) Agrees to this.

What’s important is that it must be implemented properly. Such a big change will be irreversible, so many aspects and concerns must be taken into account by devs.

Thankfully devs seem open to dialog this time. We will see.

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Call them maps now, those are no more than maps every addtional unit now are usable in all campaigns like bike now can be used outiside tunisia

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They also hinted new war theaters so I’m guessing the 2 nee campaigns will in fact be tech trees.

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Tech tree are faction tree, if they add more tech tree it mean more faction wo is a good thing

Wen the update drop we have 6 tech tree

SOVIET
US
GERMANY
ITALY
JAPAN
COMMOWEALTH

2 new map

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Yes… that’s exactly what I meant :stuck_out_tongue:

“Vive la France”?

I want to see some French tanks.

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This is War Thunder system.
It’s impossible to have historical accuracy in War Thunder in arcade mod. Realistic mod is for people with a little bit of taste. And historical battle are just rare events.

I’m afraid they will take the life potion instead of the mana potion:
The game will still be alive, but it will have no magic anymore.

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