Is this game fair?

Solid idea here to reduce explosive spam and over-geared troops, might also be a good idea to add time limits to certain vehicles after they get destroyed? Like Tiger tanks for example? Maybe if someone loses a tank they should have to cycle thru an infantry squad first before getting to their next premium tank slot?

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Wrong mate, Calliope causing people to leave isn’t because they are losing, neither side is winning or losing in the first 30 seconds of the match, that is when most people are dropping out on Normandy, they see the premium nonsense and spam from the other team and leave right away, doesn’t matter which side or which campaign either, just happened to me and Lomax on Berlin and Tunisia we had the only players on our team complain and leave before they even tried…and yes the game is dying, the fact the discord numbers are down so dramatically and the forum engagement is a joke mostly because they ban discussions like this and any effort to boycott or criticize certain practices has basically led to this company attacking the customers outright and banning them from their games. Gaijin is a pay to win not free to play model, mostly because of the extra slots, but if their game wasn’t dying why would nearly every match be full of bots? Why not expand servers if they are growing? Why not continue to advertise and invest in more development? The past 5 updates have all claimed to fix similar bugs and ALL of those bugs are still in the game…bots over a year later can’t even walk in a straight line and get to the objective, they run into walls or just stand out in the open blankly staring until they get shot. Bots from games developed 20 years ago had more testing and game development and much more time invested into them and they didn’t charge 80 bucks for a single vehicle that couldn’t be unlocked for free either. The game is indeed dying, if it weren’t why would they not release the player metrics and player count if the game is growing how come they haven’t updated that info in over a year? Could it be because of the already proven sunken cost fallacy theory you are willing to gas light this far? Get lost with the wallet warrior gas lighting, they could have made the game monetized in ANY other way besides pay to win, they already had a pay to progress model that was grindy and predatory enough they didn’t need to divide the player base with expensive pay walls for falsely advertised content. And YES, putting the Calliope in their update trailer with free to play all over the trailer without specifying the Calliope ISN’T free to play is false advertising. They are just not located in any country that enforces these laws so they get away with it.

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Actually this one is sensate for try to reduce the one player tank blind spam and let someone else using it

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Oh yeah?

Take that then

As usual small dick losers would rather compare game stats than make a compelling argument. The but in my personal experience deflection argument is another go to, how sad. But none of these boot lickers seem to have a good argument for why any of the pay to win nonsense should stay in the game? They clearly have no care for how toxic it is viewed by gamers as a community, they clearly care not for how they address gaming servers or communities, so clearly we are just dealing with a bunch of gaslighting pussies who would all get stepped on and do get stepped on in regular life, which is why they all no life a forum spending hours of time copy pasting and reseraching player stats instead of just getting a life. To all of you gas lighting losers, grow up, Go outside, stop defending pay to win. Gaijin isn’t your friend, gaijin isn’t helping you get out of your mothers basement, Gaijin isnt gonna help you grow out of your 12 year old chubby cheeks, gaijin wont help you learn how to properly drive or maintain your car or work out or hunt or camp or fish or any of the things you should be doing instead of defending corporate scum. Sincerely, have a better life, please, for all of us

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Oh give it to him, has sayed one decent thing in 30 post is already something

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Oh yeah?

Yeah the premium infantry squads are starting to get a bit nuts I agree but it isn’t the main problem, the main problem is the extra slots. Being able to have 6 infantry slots and 3-4 vehicle squads compared to a free player with 3 infantry squads and 1 vehicle squad is just outright pay to win. I can agree there is merit to arguing against the premium infantry squads and vehicles but they aren’t even as obvious a problem. Dark Flow is working with Gaijin so they can be nothing but scummy at this point, Gaijin games if you read this I hope you quit your job and work for a non corrupt anti consumer company.

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@Kamad0_Tanjir0 @Shiivex some one here dont have fear but remember NKVD is always behind you

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NKVD?

In Moscow there is a premium tank with high explosive the free version of the tank doesn’t get HE, in Normandy both rocket tanks can’t be unlocked for free players and they are very good at long range spawn killing before you can take them out they do tons of damage, rocket tank is also in Moscow but only premium and only for allies. In Tunisia the premium motorcycles allow you to carry 1-2 extra people which basically means they can get more people into a good position quickly than the free version. The most clear indication of pay to win in the game though is the premium squad slots, when you destroy a Tiger tank and they instantly pull a bomber plane after dying that isn’t something a free player can counter at all…they are forced to die to the premium player with more tactical options. If you pit a free to play player of equal level against a premium player equal level but they have bought all the premium content on that campaign, the premium player will win 10/10 if they are equal skill level, it ruins the balance of the game entirely. It would be like putting two boxers against each other, but one boxer can throw uppercuts and hooks, and the other boxer can’t throw those punches AT ALL. Oh yeah and the reason one boxer has special rules is because he paid the referee to allow him to throw those punches also. That is the competitive model Gaijin has set up, it doesn’t matter that some free player can beat shitty pay to win players and counter their uppercut with just a jab, the point is they pay wall certain tactical change ups and abilities and content but then advertise the game as free to play and pay a bunch of shills to lie and claim the game isn’t pay to win at all…this is the reason people call you a shill and meme on you in the discord posts about the Enlisted forum, because you would rather sit here gas lighting than read a legitimate argument.

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I fear no God.

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kratos, there thing even god fear

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NKVD

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It’s thanks to moments like this that I love this forum. Nothing better to pass boredom at work :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Lost track. What was the point here again?
And why cant people write HEAT

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Who was in heat again???

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i, pretty much agree with most of the things you said ( against the slots )

but… here you are a bit clatching the straws.
so to speak.

shiivex is an enlisted alpha tester.
just like me.

the enlisted Alpha testers are the one that got " selected " ( more randomly than hand picked like you are implying ) that happened in three different selections.

and, being an alpha tester, does not grant you anything beside a pointless title, few in game items ( posters. the one that you place in the game ) and literally as " reward " 1 week of premium ( which was active and expired when this game reached OBT )

that doesn’t mean gaijin or darkflow take into account our opinions more.

we’re nothing special more than you, or any other member.
our opinions are pretty much take into account like yours.

if devs like it, or alligns with devs plan, they will consider it.
if not, no.

do not be part of the disinformation about the matter.
as i have seen this type of argument many times.

but that’s all.

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the players who pay not for winning but for having our favorite thing in the game such as a tank or a particular weapon are the ones who keep the game afloat
but, I have given many suggestions and reported many bugs and no one has paid any attention to me

-CBT player

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I still remember that you made a concept art about new icons for the game a long time ago

Yes.

Life isn’t really fair. If the game is to be more realistic (more life like), I’d expect things to be a little unfair sometimes. Sometimes a challenge is fun.

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