Increase the default ammo pool for ALL machine guns to ~150 rounds

Because why not.

A discussion in another thread brought up the point that there’s a quite noticeable inconsistency in the standard ammo supply across different models of MGs.

The most obvious discrepancy is between belt fed MGs like the RD44 or the Browning 1916, that get a default supply of 200 rounds (100/100), and others like MG42 or BAR, whose default supply is half as much (50/50 or 20/80).

Therefore, the suggestion here is that ALL MGs of all nations get their minimum ammo supply raised to 150 rounds or so, to decrease such discrepancy.

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Ammunition scarcity is one of the few balancing factors that works, in that it keeps players from just holding the trigger down the whole game, and forces them to think at least a little tactically about their ammo consumption.

I personally like having to work around that limitation, and I’d rather they keep default ammo as low as reasonable

I think BARs and overall MGs that are BR3 and lower are okay.
But every MG BR4+ should have at least 150 rnds.

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It makes sense, but unlike rifles and SMGs, the whole point of MGs is being able to spray.

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I would agree if dispersion on MGs wasn’t so huge.

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If you support the Japanese bar and the German premium squad bar getting extra ammo as well then I can agree with you even more.

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Every machine gun should be able to fulfill its function and that is to conduct cover fire. You need to have enough ammo for that. But unfortunately, the machine guns in this game are undersized, because you need to use your brain to destroy them, and many players lack that. DF should choose what type of player he wants to make a game for. Whether he wants to create a game for experienced players who want a sophisticated game where you can play multiple game styles, or they want to create a simple infantry game for players who are constantly crying nerf this nerf that. If they want the first type of player, they should upgrade the machine guns and return the game to how it was before they nerfed everything. Weak players will leave, but new players will come who like a challenge. If they continue to nerf everything and keep simplifying the game, players who like the challenge will leave and players who will cry nerf this nerf that will come.

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Everyone should get extra ammo and no one should be excluded from getting extra ammo like the bar family or any 20 round MG in this game.

There is no reason why they should have double the ammo of 20 rnds smgs.

This is a war game and suppressive fire is actually a thing and one extra magazine won’t hurt

Literally nobody would use ammo bag on BARs if they would have 200 ammo by default. There’s no way you will be consistently surviving that long do deplete 400 rounds with BARs, lol.

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If we have that much ammo we can reliably lay down suppressive fire

Get back to the topic, this is not a pub.

and please, dont derail the topic

Second reminder there wouldnt be a third

belt fed MG need new mechanic where they would have 150 or 300 ammo when setup up with bipod and low ammo when on the run.

but this is pure pipe dream cause they cant even fix bipods, not to mention adding new mechanics (without bugs or working properly).

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Or some unique class type of soldier for MG and AT squads called “ammo carrier”.
As long as he lives and is near you, you would have binus ammo for your weapon.
Plus he could gave you some bonus stats like faster reload etc.

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so you basically have bonus ammo for 10 seconds? :stuck_out_tongue:

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the concept of a bipod in this game is a myth now

This is a worthy idea.

But how do you get the ammo bearer AI to stay within the proximity? I somehow end up outpacing my whole squad when searching for flanking routes to build rally points.:laughing:

this is cool!

because Ive been playing Hell divers 2, Team weapons are excellent. One person can reload while the other shoots, which hugely boosts your overall fire rate (minimal downtime) and ammo capacity (depending on back packs)

could probably be an item? replaces backpack? MG ammo belts/crates? You would put it on a squad AI that wasnt a Machinegunner

Call to Arms Gates of Hell does this

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