Hi, so i made a comment on a post a couple of days ago about sniping in this game and thinking about it made me consider that the comment might deserve a post on it’s own so other players can share their opinion.
So when i first started playing, i took sniping seriously. I took my time, moved stealthly from one position to another, looked for a concealed firing position and searched for HVTs (MG gunners, AA gunners, AT gunners and troops, enemy snipers, radio operators, tank commanders, etc), and marking enemy troopes and tanks. I only engaged HVTs because i consider that’s it’s not worth giving my position away with shooting regular infantry (even more so when your are sihouleted in red on the battlefield to your victim). Now… while i was helping my team with real support and intel, i noticed that my progress was slow because my killcount wasn’t high. 20-30 kills are scored the same regardless of the importance of your target. So what i noticed is that snipers (including me) tend to act less as snipers and more like designated markmen,shooting everything that moves in order to get that killcount go up and get the best sniper badge. Such a role that would be better suited for semiauto scoped rifles(DMR).
Imho, i think snipers squads should get more points for HVTs and less for regular infantry, this would make snipers less trigger happy and more invested in scouting for HVTs.
The problem with snipers is that:
A: They dont get you much XP. Reporting on enemy positions, marking - even tough you are an amazing player for doing that you wont get any reasonable rewards for your work
B: Killcam. If you shoot an experienced guy, since killcam is in the game he will just kill you without any difficulties trying to find you. Thats why snipers duels, and engagements are so dull. You always know where the guy is and just prefire
Then you need to kill more i usually can get up to 100-150 kills in a session if it goes good. And you also get points for keeping Tanks marked when they get destroyed. When you kill a player youre already concealed by a killcam so keep in good cover and change pos when being compromised but not to far i would say since you have the upper hand on range if youre not being hunted by another sniper that is… Shooting ppl inside an objective also gives you extra if im not mistaken. But yes marking AA, AT guns asw should give you points if they gets destroyed when marked. Having an Radioman that will provide you better arty since you can see where most of them are or AT soldier with ya is also good or Engineer for more ammo instead of Radioman but i prefer the radioman instead since i have extra ammo on all my snipers and can get more from team commands if needed
Solution: deck your snipers with scoped semi autos and go near the front, those are deadly. Or even better, strike fear in the hearts of valiants Moscow defenders creating shock squads of death armed with mkb42h
Yes my next project will be an cqc recon sq when i get the MKB Lots of flanks and sabotage for sure ^^
Well that’s the issue, a sniper shouln’t get XP just from a high killcount, but from the importance of the targets. Let’s say for the sake of the argument that a regular infantry would get you 15 XP and a MG gunner 300. You would be less tempted to give your position away for 15 XP and you would look for HVTs that give you more XP.
interesting take on it for sure that you get prio targets out from your sniping. But idk could mess up with so much perhaps and need a balance of its own
Maybe it would be a good ideea to remove the red silhouete from the killcam for snipers and leave it at a level of “you were shot from somewhere over there”
We need encourage people to go in cap zones, not camp in bushes
That’s the role of a designated marksman, not a sniper.
Well… camping in bushes is sort of what snipers do, a cap zone is not a place for a sniper to be in. Sitting in a bush far away and making sure that a guy with a flamethrower or MG doesn’t go in a bunker and kill your team is what a sniper should do.
Thats why we dont need more snipers, we need people that actually go in cap zones
you dont win by killing the enemy
you win by capturing or holding points
I’m not saying we need more snipers, actually less would be better, but less with a better way of making XP. The reason players (including me) have many snipers in their squads is because you are forced to have a high killcount to get XP. The point of getting more points for higher value targets is that you tend to let regular infantry go not to give your position away (and while you’re at it, mark them for your team to see), and concentrate on soldiers that could wipe out your entire team. Actually the result might be in less sniper fire in a match, but more effective.
Of course you win by killing the enemy, when you defend and they have 1000 troops, killing them faster than they can capture is the only way to win.
you may kill as many enemeis as you want but of they backcap while you are focuse on killing you still lose
you can singlehandedly clear an entire cap, but if your team just sits back you dont win
What would be nice is a bonus for destroying the MG on machine gun nests. I use.my snipers most for this on the Normandy campaign
The only way to improve, rework, revisit or whatever is to remake the whole entire base of the game system. The only way to win a battle is defend or capture points. While, sniper who sits behind 100m away from the point and kill maybe one or two soldiers per minute doesn’t help at all to winning the battle. Hence, it is perfectly normal and logique that snipers don’t get much rewards.
But sniper squad is the worst for kill count. Better use radio squad, it has a sniper position. They should put sniper squad later in campaign tree so newbies don’t waste silver tokens on snipers and get stuck with crap squad.
It will be much more helpful to level up by charging to the base when it’s time to sniper.