Best example is Enlisted p38.
One is an attacker, the other a fighter… both are p38.
Because Enlisted.
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Actually it will not.
Japan BR4 can only face BR4/5 because br3 can only face br2/3. This is only for japan and makes their BR4 even more dreadfull.
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I think this is the first time a plane has come with a payload not in warthunder?
Apparantly it could have a 250kg bomb but, i dont see that as much different than 2x100s. Bit more potential with 2 (IMO)
Doesnt look like a BR IV plane though (this is one of the few i havent flown so…not sure how it handles)
Way back I did suggest this as a potential BR V plane. Things are a bit different now (jets, heavier ordnance)
Still rooting for the ki-45
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No, BF-109 K4 can only have 500kg bomb in WT but has 250kg in Enlisted (though at first it did not had anything)
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Old k4 had 250 in warthunder, not sure why removed
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Well you cant make interceptor like this plane a ground attacker the devs should just put it in a fighter squadron. They can try make it ground attacker at BR III and see what happens but no matter how I look at it it should have been some premium fighter plane despite that I love this plane but lets see. Simply the plane is a fighter plane and it has no payload or capacity to be ground attacker.
Here I have put all the Japanese planes they can be put in this setup if the devs have the will to do it and Japan will have competitive air force:
Saving Japanese Air Force TT Blueprint 
- Suggestions - Enlisted
But the devs will have to make at least one plane that’s not in war thunder and adjust some payloads that are not in warthunder.
I took it for a fly in warthunder last night. Nice looking bird. Was fun
I suppose its not the first interceptor/heavy fighter with attacker tag. But yeah, there are better “attacker” options for CAS. This is more just a bit of flavour (Im all for choices)
At least now japan has 2 slots for air supremacy instead of just the fighter slot
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That’s the only positive thing how they gonna balance it I dont know xD
To be honest, if they change it to 250kg x 2
Instead, it should be changed from BR4 to BR5.
The plane performance is better than the P-47D-28, and the machine gun is 30mm x 2, which is extremely destructive to the plane and killing infantry. (Based on the HE belt)
Of course, this alone won’t destroy the tank, but so if they switch to 250kg x 2, it could be similar or even better than P-47D-28.
I’m in favor of this being changed to 250kg x 2 and to BR5.
One thing is for sure
Ki-83 is the only plane that can exist in BR5 except for jets.
I didn’t think it because 50kg x 2 was max before, but if they can change the bomb to something better, there’s no better plane than this.
Well the bomb size will really determent the BR of this plane if its with 100 kg bombs it hard to be BR III+ since its useless against ground targets (unless it was fighter plane). If it has 2x250 kg bombs it can be BR IV or BR V. But its not on the level of a Jet for sure since jets are better at everything and have bigger bombs so no plane in existence that is not a jet can exist in BR 5. Even in war thunder they are separated for a reason you are going from 6.0 to 7.0 + and this is important BR since its from propeller to jet BR.
P-47D-28 if it had a single 250 kg bomb would be BR III plane.
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Well, the problem is that there’s not just bombs here.
The problem is that the plane itself has the best performance, and the 30mm x 2 is very powerful.
With this plane performance and this punch power, one advantage is that it is also effective against jets.
No matter how fast the jet is, it will be destroyed right away with just one 30mm hit.
Also, 30mm is the deadliest even for infantry, as mentioned above.
I’ve been killing at least 10 infantry at a one time with Me262 and Fw190 D-12, Bf 109 K-4 and Kikka’s 30mm.
I think the reason why this plane can’t go below BR3 is because it has top performance for an attacker plane, strong cannon, and 100Kg x 2 minimum bomb, so it can’t go down to BR3.
If this goes down to BR3, it will be more OP attacker than XA-38 to be honest.
Therefore, BR4 is appropriate, and honestly, I would like to change it to 250kg and change it to BR5.
Well this depends 30 mm German are very different from the 30 mm Japanese. You can test them and compare them the Germans are far better with much more HE.
Well that’s the problem but the Ki - 83 has guns on the bottom of the nose so with a jet you not gonna go full frontal from below you will try to spiral in altitude or get him in a dog fight. The outcome of the fight will be determined on who had the high ground in frontal engagement since if you do none of his cannons will hit you:
Well 30 mm Japanese are not as deadly as GE. Just compare the BF 109 Z-1 and Ki 83.
Not exactly if it was a fighter plane yes but its ground attacker. The Xa and the Mosquito have better anti ground capabilities. If the Ki was a fighter with 100 kg bombs would be BR IV fighter however a ground attacker is first judged by its anti ground capabilities. So as a ground attacker with only 2x100 kg bombs Ki- 83 cant be BR IV since you cant destroy ground targets with it. The armor at this BR gets very heavy.
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I doubt it.
For the 30 mm Type 5 cannon, it was better than all 30mm cannon in Germany.
It was very powerful to use fast speed and APHE bullets.
However, I think we will have to see the exact data of the 30mm Ho-155 cannon once we see it.
But I’m not worried because the performance of the 30mm itself is guaranteed.
Well test them in game I already did I played the game since I have played the BF I can tell you every person that played the Ki-83 will tell you that the German cannons have more HE just go in game spawn the BF 109 Z-1 that has 2 cannons 30 mm and shoot at the ground then spawn the Ki-83 and shoot at the ground. The BF 109 Z-1 is a better ground attacker and its a fighter at BR IV.
Every pilot will tell you that MK 108 has higher explosive (HE) filler then Ho-155 and the rates of fire on MK 108 are better.
Mk 108 is 650-660
Ho-155 is 450 to 500
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The problem is that in the case of APHE, tank can also be destroyed.
As APHE, there is no decrease in penetration over distance, and as mentioned above, Japan’s 30mm is enough to slaughter infantry.
Well, but I think I’ll have to see the exact 30mm Ho-155 cannon data first.
Of course, the actual data used in the Warthunder.
This statement is not true in warthunder neither in enlisted I have played them.
No it cant be you cant destroy even a Sherman with them I have tried. There can be only some lucky engine shot that can set on fire thats the best you can do but you cant destroy the tank or pen it.A slight angle will make it impossible to pen.
As you can see I have the plane I tested it already.
Well
I’ve also destroy Pershing a few times with 30mm of Kikka. (max 36mm)
Oh, it was definitely better than the impossible Mk 108.
Another problem was the low bullet speed to Mk 108.
Thanks to this, I prefer Type 5 cannon to Mk 108. (500 vs 770)
But it’s not about Type 5.
So I’ll have to look at the data of the 30mm Ho-155 cannon first.
All I know is that the penetration is terrible. (No APHE)
The Pershing can be penned only on perfect conditions and again on the engine side where it wont cause death to the tank if the fire is extinguished. To suggest that you can destroy reliably Pershing with Japanese 30 mm is not realistic. The guy must not react at all. All the Pershing needs to do is start moving. And what you can do with the Kikka you cant do with Ki-83 since if you try to attack with the same angle do to the size of the plane you will crash.
That’s why I don’t expect tanks on Ho-155.
What I lean on Ho-155 is infantry killing and airplane destruction.
The plane itself performs well, and it’s a combination that can never fail unless the Ho-155 has a HE shell.
100kg bomb is only used for tanks, as 30mm cannons will be enough for the rest of the infantry. (if HE shell exists)
Which makes it a BR III ground attacker if it was a fighter plane I would put it on BR IV but this is supposed to be their ground attacker.