Idea for adding the kv/t-34

After PPD buff I was a first how tell about it’s feels op and made a tread about it. After it made balanced we still have an issue with some guns on German side. So it’s not only a German weapons Nerf since fall of 2020

Which is how the majority of players will play the game - on one side. The developers have to take this into account. It is not a magic ticket to give one side free OP equipment.

Then why are you against the T-35, which would be weaker than the KV-1, but A-OK with the KV-1???

Is T-28 and ZiS-30 not enough?

As I told before T-35.was like a BA-11 during the Moscow Battle. Highly likely It wasn’t represented there at all

There is a difference between 0 BA-11s and <500 T-28s.
T-35 was mainly opposed because of balance, and only after that because only 1 was ever used.

I’ve tried playing Soviet sides a couple of times. The issue I faced is teammates not communicating or using only Russian in chat. Things were way better back in alpha and Soviet had an almost equal win rate. Therefore any balancing should come only after game hits OBT so as to know what happens when games are filled with humans and not bots.

You only started playing Germany after you finished Soviet campaign and ran out of logistics ticket. So, not valid.

As part of the Western Front, these machines were practically not used, but on the South-Western Front they were used en masse until the autumn of 1941. In the future, there are only isolated episodes of the use of these tanks in the battle of Moscow. The T-28s were used much longer in the battles near Leningrad, which was due to the proximity of the Kirov plant with its powerful repair base and the specifics of positional warfare, where the T-28s were often used as fixed firing points.

I play it anyway. And like its guns a lot - for G33 to MG-13

Because you play it doesn’t mean most other people will too.

You can not force something a player does not want onto them. It has never worked, and will never work, in any videogame. Playing the game is entirely optional and if it isn’t fun enough, most players will and have left Enlisted for other games. And it is very easy to see this based on the forum activity now compared to when CBT started. We have less than 20 active people here on the english side, with the occasional random player making new threads / responding to threads.

Warframe, for example, gets so many new replies every day that you could never, ever keep up with all messages. And that game sells $120 access packs for a handful of new items that can be obtained for free + some cosmetics.
Pretty clear indicator on which F2P game is more interesting for people.

And all the tanks we got are from pre-1940, and battle of Moscow started in oktober 1941 aka your autumn 1941 deadline you set for them to be used everywhere.

It sure as hell would make more sense as a counterpart of a Pz4C/D than a T-34 or KV-1 would.

The successful defensive operations of the Red Army near Moscow were one of the turning points of the Second World War, and it was in these battles that the T-34 tanks first fully demonstrated their outstanding combat qualities. It’s like a symbol of this time and these battle. It was use quite often during all parts of the battle.1000 times more often then T-28

Does not make it a good idea to add the vehicle.
“Oh Germany used the Tiger 2 during battle of normandy, let’s pit that against the 75mm shermans! Good idea!” :clown_face:
Even the Tiger 1 would be a bad idea, despite being used in considerable numbers. Or the panther, equally bad idea. Tiger 1 could be added to Tunesia too.
But
You don’t hear me moaning about those because I can admit they are too good for this meta and can better used in later campaigns. Put KV-1 and T-34 against late Pz4s at Stalinrad or Kursk.
Because that is another thing. What the hell would you give to the Soviets during mid-war campaigns, if not for T-34s and KV-1s? And if you can have those in another campaign, why play the mid-war campaign that would offer less vehicles? (if you want to main Soviet tanks)

Let’s just say T-34 gets added, which I am in no way against(same goes for KV-1), what tank do you give the Germans to counter it?

Because Soviets from time immemorial has been asking for balance between classes. The SMG discussion and recently the Pz II ones. Germans have done the same with the rifle damage. So, it’s known that having any class out performing the other faction’s leads to wide spread criticism.

but people don’t believe it so why not test it in real time to see the game’s death…

LMAO so the problem with the russian side is because some people want to play some other faction but not russia…bro such a stupid argument. You are smarter than this also if kv is added how will germans counter it?

Yes I do love the “people dont enjoy this so the game is dying” argument. I THINK THAT IS OBVIOUS.

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never.

squizy car i would keep it for other occasions.

and no, i mean a proper 37mm.
just like the already present war thunder versione :smiley:

But that doesn’t improve the chances of germany vs kv1
Unless you’re suggesting it as a new vehicle for the current meta, then sure

that is truee.

i do understand the point.

but as i said multiple times, you just just “kill” one side, in order to get Some people on the other.
it’s not a good and wise choise.

and it’s not a good idea to make overpowered one side in order to gain more people.

as i said, it’s a sad and concrete problem. but it might get solved once enlisted reach the open beta. as a free to play, massive people will join both side, meaning that bots will be no more ( hopefully ).

as such, i’m more than sure that will players will balance that out.
just a matter of time.

i don’t deny that i didn’t properly looked at that, as i always sort for newer post.
although, the few posts that i saw, were people ranting because they do not win.
and insthead of thinking the possibility, it’s always germanys and players that joins germany’s fault.

as i said, historical vehicles are ok, and as you rightully stated, asymetrical gameplay shouldn’t be a thing in a game like enlisted. this is why, in this campaign we cannot get any kvs as the german does not have many counters. marders could be a solution, but does not provide the same gameplay and effect as a kv.

yeah, those can be used in the current campaign along side panzer ivs.

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Doesn’t matter if 90% of players leave within 3 months like they did during closed beta.

The newest Pz4 was I think the E model, maaybe F1 model? during Moscow.
They did not have the long barreled gun, and would require the HEAT round, which historically was only supplied at a rate of <5 per tank, to really counter the T-34. But if that happens, why would you ever play any other tank than these two on either side? 4.3 second reload on the F1, btw.

Alternatively you could replace the Pz3B/E with a later variant, but then you are upshifting another tank in terms of power level, still leading to all older tanks being left in the dust.

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not everyone leave after 2 sec of gameplay.

whatever you said, a pziv it’s still a counter.
and somewhat, equal. even with shorter barrell. good enough for me. or i would say, everyone.

unfortunatelly, that is truee. you pick newer tanks because are better. not because it’s a possibility.

meaning that first tanks will be abbandoned.