I hate that there is only a Lanchester at BR2 Allies - can we pls get something more reasonable?

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Devs won’t add either version of Austen smg or the 20-round box mag Thompson. You’re stuck with the Lanchester until then :frowning_face:

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why are people so shocked that factions have different strengths and weaknesses, you get the almighty lee enfield at br2, having factions that have a mix of “meh” and “excellent” guns is what gives them character

you should try germany or ussr if you want to specialize in SMGs

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Japan has way better SMGs than Germany, I’d say Japan and Soviets are the best in terms of tjat

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You do realise that Enlisted is all about SMGs right?

Lee Enfield is awesome, no one’s denying that. But Germany also has great rifles imo, as does Japan, and they both get really good SMGs.

Why should Allies not get decent SMGs as well?

What’s the reasons against a 20 round Thompson (Germans get 20 round M38) or an Austen variant?

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Yes. Honestly I feel axis smgs are the most… “meh”. They do the job but nothing spectacular. I’m not counting assault rifles like stg44 thought!
Allies smgs are… okayish. since Tommies got their visual fixed they’re rather decent imo.
Japan has pretty good ones, some with high rof, some high damage, other very stables, other with big magazines. Bit of everything.
Sovs have simply put the best stuff in that department.

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1: allies do have decent SMGs, the lanchester and owen are both decent, they just aren’t the best
2: lee enfield is the best bolt action in low br hands down, better than the arisaka 38 since it has twice the capacity, and better than the vg2 since it comes with better reload speed and a bayonet. yes, the axis has good rifles too, but allies have the best bolt action in their tech tree

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germany/ussr have the best br2 (which is what i thought we were discussing) SMGs with the beretta m1 and the pps43, but japan catches up in high br

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Japan has a great smgs across all BR. What other faction has 50 round smg at BR2?

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i find that SMG to control like ass, feels like im shooting the mp-18

i would rather take something like the pps 43 or m1 beretta which shoots a million times more pleasantly

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beretta m38a != thompson m21/28
first of all beretta should be on 2 br rn instead of thompson which is most effective gun on 4 br, that would be too much to take it on 2 br

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isnt the BR 1 PPD-34 about the same/better? (Comparatively)

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I aint asking for anything op. 20 round m1a1 would still be shit and much worse than pps 43 and mp 40. They could even nerf the recoil and reload speed if needed but i want thompson for br 2 usa. Using british loadouts gets boring real fast

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  1. Owen gun is good (Im Australian so I have to like it lol), but its only useful for very specific situations. Those sights are a real problem too.
  2. Once again, no one is denying the .303s are great. Im very happy with them. But I really like the M1895 Mannlicher, Vz.24 and all the Italian rifles to be honest are really good imo.

I fail to see how having “the best bolt action” is relevant to a discussion about SMGs though. You cant clear a room with a bolt action.
As I said before, this game is all about SMGs. Its one of the problems with the current system, its so focused on attacking one objective thats a single house for example where you just spam SMGs.
The game isnt really conjusive for other weapons/play styles (especially sniper rifles since the game moves so fast).

I do not believe the Lanchester is a ‘bad’ gun, but I just dont understand the worship of it. Its not that good. I much prefer the MP40 for example.
The Lanchester I found myself shooting and shooting and not getting the kills an MP40 does. It also remains a fact that the Lanchester is just an MP28 copy, the MP28 being the BR I Axis SMG.

Furthermore, the Lanchester technically shouldnt even be in the game since it was only used by the Royal Navy.

I find it hilarious people are praising the grease gun. It shoots chug chug chug, its actually painful to shoot. Terrible sights too. FNAB has the same problem (I dont recall what the sights were like).

I just dont understand the problem adding a 20 round Thompson or Austen to Allies BR II?

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Don’t say anything against my FNAB. The chug, chug, chug is the main selling point of this gun.

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FYI I dont mind a slower rate of fire. But theres a slower rate, and so slow its like an automatic musket.
For German SMGs, MP40 all the way (BR II).

I like the Beretta M38 (Forgotten Weapons rated it as one of the best SMGs of WWII) but 20 rounds is too little for me.

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You guys don’t understand my point - I personally think BR5 and BR2 are the most worthy BRs to play - because they allow you to consistently play early war or late war games.

So I have an interest in it feeling right, I am in no way complaining about the Lanchesters performance - it kills in two shots and fires faster than MP40, its pretty much stronger than German BR2 SMGs, not by much but stats arent lying. This is not my point, my point is that there is no iconic early war SMG that is decent to use, I dont like the idea that at BR2 the top SMG is a German copy - thats my whole point.

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I mean, Japans low BR SMG’s only consist of german copies and they aren’t complaining?

Still not against a 20 round Thompson for the US in BR 2 though.

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Fair. I want an Austen myself.

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The game no longer forces players to use period accurate gear but the game should allow players to make ha loadouts if they wish. Currently usa is the only faction that cant make ha br 2 loadout unless using british stuff.

20 round thompson and nerfed m1918 bar to br 2 would be all i need

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