How to have an Italian Only Campaign in Tunisia Phase II

I will quote the first part of Phase I (How to have an Italian Only Campaign in Tunisia Phase I)

"There are many suggestions in here asking for more Italy and less Germany for the Tunisia campaign. I am in concordance with the vast majority of these recommendations and would love to see an Italian pure campaign.

First off, now is an excellent time to begin the transition. Everything that costs actual money to get is Italian excepting the Motorcycle squad. And if the weapons of the Motorcycle Squad are bound to it, that could even remain German (Although there are clearly Italian Options here.) A few German Premium squads with bound weapons would be cool In my opinion. So this could be done by one for one swapping all existing weapons (again excepting the Motorcycle squad. And units are simply a function of changing names of soldiers and units. The upgrades could all be retained, thus requiring no reimbursement.

That out of the way, let’s get to everyone’s favorite part, weapons."

Light Machine Guns:
Here we run into our first real problem. Other than the Breda 30 there were no Italian LMG’s that did not require a tripod to use. However some sources indicate that the Italians used captured FM 24/29 French LMGs. This would be an excellent replacement for the ZB-26. They are very similar in capability. However, for later MG squads the Axis in Tunisia are going to have to be represented by the Germans. Here MG 34 and MG 42 would be options. Another reason to keep the Premium Motorcycle Squad German. Germans are going to have to come in anyway.

Ultimately, Germans will be necessary.

Anti-Tank Guns: Currently these are both German guns. This is entirely unnecessary. The PzB-38 could easily be replaced by the Solothurn S-18/100 Anti-Tank Rifle. Very similar in size and capability. Also, more similar to the Boys. For the GrB-39 I recommend the Experimental Lancibombe Controcarro 60mm. Very few were built, but it seems to have existed and would be a perfect replacement. For future Infantry Anti-Tank, well I would point out there really isn’t a lot for Germany OR Italy after the GrB-39. As an option I propose a squad wheeling around a Cannone controcarro sa 37/45. On a related note, the Engineers should build an Italian Anti-Tank Gun. But the only appropriate option is the 47/32 M35 which will be terrible against the Grant.

Ultimately, don’t really need Germany here either.

Anti-Aircraft:
Very Briefly, the Italians could build the Cannone da 37/54 instead of the Wirblewind mount. Proper ammo would make this fine.

Mortars:
The Granatwerfer 36 could very easily be replaced by the Brixia Model 35. A 15.5 kilo system of 45mm.

Flamethrowers: The Italians deployed multiple types of Flamethrowers of varying capability. No reason in the world you need Germans for Flamethrower troops in the Tunisia campaign.

Tanks.
First, let me say that the Italians already have all of the vehicles they deployed to Tunisia. (By the way the Golden Order Tank is worse than the M14/42 upgraded, really no reason to get it) . Let me also say that the Semovente needs to be buffed. Roof MG, HEAT rounds, HE rounds, and a faster reload are all legitimate options. The problem becomes, what comes next? I would say that a case could be made to give the Italians the P40 as the prototypes would have been done before the Tunisia campaign ended. The P40 stacks up very well against the Sherman and could do well in the game. However, for a more “pure” situation this would have to be done with the Germans. (A Panzer IV). IF they decide to add heavy tanks, the only option is a German Tiger I. However, a small number of necessary German Squads is still basically an Italian campaign.

Ultimately Germans are likely necessary.

Planes.
I don’t believe the current Italian planes are appropriate, The Re.2002 would be better for the first plane, Re.2001CN for the second plane (No FW 190 necessary). The third Fighter could remain the MC.202EC but I would like something with bombs. Like an early G.55. The Ju87 could be replaced with any number of vehicles, but a Breda 88M would probably be best. For later aircraft, Italy would continue to have many options.

Ultimately Germany is unnecessary.

Motorcycles. Italy had several clever motorcycle gun carriers. No reason you would have to resort to German. The Moto Guzzi 500 Trialce and the Benelli 500 M36 Mototriciclo as two examples.

That about wraps it up. Sure, Some Germans might be necessary, but there is a clear path to almost all of the 40 levels being Italian. This should be the goal.

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Easier for devs to just asset flip unfortunately

FM 24/29 would be interesting but why not introduce it along with the ZB26 as an option as a side grade? This way it expands content. Both weapons are historical so allow the weapons from all nations to be there

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Facts. But we can still try. This game is still in beta.

Why do we have to have the ZB26? Italy never used it.

More content as I said to draw more people. Some people like German weapons and some like Italian weapons and it is the Axis campaign, not solely the Italians.

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I feel like the people who like German weapons can just play the other 3 campaigns that use the same German weapons though lol. Should be like 75% Italian and 25% German imo

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Sure i agree but there’s no need to cut content, just add more Italian. In fact I think the last thing we need is to cut things out

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This

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Why do you want to replace germans from Tunisia? They fought in Tunisia

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Why do all four campaigns have to have Germany?

I said replace

Not eliminate…

Well. Cause the Germans played a significant/ main role in those campaigns I guess.

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Like Britain did in Normandy?

The issue is that this game already has tons and tons of German content and an entire campaign of USA content. I would like more diversity in the content. Maximizing Britain and Italy in Tunisia is, overall, more content.

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Except that (unlike the Commonwealth) Italy cant be balanced against the Britishs in terms of tanks and MGs (and even SMGs since like two or three of them we already have are protos or produced in small numbers).
And I remember the issue with a good anti tank cannon since Italy had horrible field anti tank guns in Africa (prefered turning them into SPGs or using the good ones on ze Ostfront against T-34s). Mostly due the lack of proper AP (especially if we face Churchills).
I mean yeah. I understand the frustation for grinding GE stuff for the 4th time. Maybe we should have consider a campaign where Italy actualy fought on their own (or at least without Germany) like Greece/ Albania or Yugoslavia… or just skipped to Asia instead of Euope/ Africa.

Here is the thing. I think, ultimately, as many nations should be represented as possible. I look forward to a Romanian or Hungarian campaign, (Maybe both?) A Canadian campaign, The inclusion of Commonwealth forces in with British Campaigns, A China vs. Japan Campaign, A USMC vs. Japan Campaign, etc. etc. For the smaller nations one campaign is likely all they should get. This, Tunisia, is going to be it for Italy. Should be it for Italy, Italy surrendered a few months after the Tunisian campaign. Tunisia comes at a time with maximum availability of Italian Equipment (Unless they do a Sicily campaign, but why?) This campaign should be as Italian as possible. And right now, it isn’t. I don’t know what the road to 40+ looks like. Maybe most of the weapons I have talked about will make it in. But, I don’t know that. Maybe we will look back on these posts and realize, ultimately the point was moot. But, again, I don’t know that. So, with the given information now, I am doing what I can to try and make this campaign as Italian as possible. I very clearly see a way to do this where you have only a handful of German units. A Heavy Tank one (Which I don’t think we should have heavy tanks) and later LMG squads. WE are already past halfway and a lot of weapons will soon be considered downgrades. So, WHY is everyone so dead set on so much German stuff here? Heck, a lot of it is very repetitive to what they get in their THREE other campaigns.

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This still could be done. You already made modifications to weapons that are in game.

Bring helmets and replace their feet with something more historical , some of the textures of the actual colonial hats are also very buggy , they should have ammo pouches and the uniforms need to get better
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the german camo troopers also look so basic

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