You seem to forget about: tanks, SMGs, snipers, SF rifles, semi autos are much better than soviet
And no PZIIIL isnt a 1943 modification
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Well, of course the axis is getting a buff more so than allies, as it is currently a majorly disadvantaged faction.
Yet a lot of the german stuff has worse performance.
Out of the new stuff, the 250 on the bf109 isnāt a huge deal, fairly equal to current 4x50kg, and yak1 is a much better plane at air to air. And the 2x100kg isnāt too bad either.
The basically starter one at level 20+.
Fairly certain it replaces the ZH. So donāt see a huge issue with that.
They get their own soviet mgs, which are plenty good enough.
imo captured stuff is fine as long as itās historically accurate and important for balance.
Actually seems very balanced. I donāt see a huge difference in faction strength.
If you feel something is imbalanced, tell me, Iāll either disprove it or suggest a more balanced alternative to possibly help improve this list.
Iād say itās more so than it currently is. Though, it is certainly more interesting. As well as balanced which is imo more important than historical accuracy.
Plus, Moscow desperatly needs an overhaul to make german early game viable, otherwise itāll turn into player vs bot for the soviets, as noone will bother to paly axis.
Yes and no. Honestly, the dates of introduction are verry blurry for these shells. You can find that they were in use during a certain time in reports, but you canāt find the introduction dates anywhere. Though from some guessing, Iād guess that:
The first HEAT shells for the short 75mm were put into service in 1940. These were the Hl variant which penetrated only around 50-60mm of armor.
Then later, the Hl/A variant was introduced, possibly somewhere in 1941 to maybe early 42, which could pen roughly 70-80mm of armor.
Then the warthunder shells, the B and the C were introduced possibly in 1942-43 (B) and 1944 (C).
So, Iād say itās plausible. Definitely necessary to balance the stug against the likes of T34s.
Nope, 1942. So a bit futuristic, but imo acceptable, as itās just a few months. And neccessary to balance the T34.
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Nope it isnāt. 250 kg can kill tanks without direct hit.
Aināt a big difference from ppd40 or ppsh, and letās talk about balance between two highlevel players.
Why do we need to replace ZH? Again, trophies arenāt the best way to balance something.
DP is as good compared to mg34, as mp40 compared to ppsh.
Itās good, but canāt be compared to mg34.
Letās give everyone the same guns then. Why not? We can also give the same tanks and planes.
Again, my balance suggestions: delete avs, increase horizontal recoil of ppd/ppsh, slightly increase RoF of mp40, teach axis players how to be less retarded. Thatās all.
June 1942. Too futuristic. Aināt even april.
And T-34 is balanced by german planes and GrB. Again, stuka is like level 10, and it can easily take out any tank it meets, even highlevel ones. While the only way for soviets to kill a tank from distance isā¦ to use another tank.
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Yet Iām fairly certain it does worse against infantry, as large bombs seems to be weakened in this game. Still, Iād say itās fairly comaprable to 2x100kg. Seeeing as 109 is worse than yak.
Honestly, quite a noticable difference. Still, itāll be rarer for the germans and it is still noticably worse than PPD40 or PPSh. So it gives both sides viable SMGs. Though, if you really donāt like it, an alterantive could be a KP31 with a 40 round drum.
I mean, the SVT is more accurate. Yet the ZH is more interesting. Honestly, either way is fine for me.
Itās still very good. MG34 is better imo, but the DPās, and expecially DTās have advantages. Better reload and accuracy. And lower rof drains ammo slower. Imo, DT vs Mg34 is roughly the same as MP40 vs MP35. Handling vs raw power. Some people even prefer the DT to the mg34.
Yet there isnāt really that many here. Like, what, 3? LEss than 5% of the campaign. Imo thatās fine.
That would help, but still soviet tansk would be an issue. If you delete T34 and T50, or give early axis players viable tanks to fight them with, like maybe 8.8cm flak halftrack, then it might be good.
But I myself still find this overhaul way more interesting than the current unlocks. So, what major balance problems issues do you see if this was to be implemented?
GRB is a high levle unlock and has crappy broken ass sights. Aiming that thing is a major pain in the ass, it makes me not even want to bother with it.
As for planes, you can use thme to counter, but then you donāt have a tank you can use to support a push. Also, getting in a plane if youāre a good player means your team doesnāt do shit.
And personally, Iād rather see less suicide stukas.
So, my suggestion on how to make this historically accurate.
Letās get rid of the whole āMoscow battle onlyā thing and change it to eastern front 1941-1942. So more vehicles, weapons and most importantly, maps.
And the problem is that thatās caused by crappy low tier gear. Your teammates are either bots or people who are palying for the first time ever and are likely gonna quit the faction, cause they donāt have much viable stuff to use agianst the soviets.
So imo, even if the axis got a maus as a final tier reward, it wouldnāt help much. The early game needs an overhaul.
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100 kg usually needs to be dropped directly on the tank.
Only reload. When it comes to mowing down enemies, itās literally the same.
Yes. And Iām pretty sure it will be added.
Still, we already got Kiraly, which is good in my opinion.
Who the heck uses all weapons of campaign instead of using the best weapons possible? Captured ppsh is only one of 26 levels in Stalingrad, but everyone is using it and only it. Because itās the best smg after all.
You have stuka.
You have GrB.
Soviet tanks aināt an issue at all as long as their enemies arenāt retarded.
But, as I can say from my experience, they are, and the only reason why tanks stay alive for so long is that nobody is trying to kill them at all. And Iām not talking about bot teams, those are real players.
T-34 is also a highlevel unlock, just as T-50. Still you complain about them.
They are not bots, as they use equipment bots donāt use and they answer in chat if someone says theyāre retarded. They are just stupid, they just refuse to do anything useful, and thatās the common problem of axis in moscow, berlin and normandy. They are not āweakā, they are just braindead.
I wonder why tunisia axis aināt like that.
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Near it. And is better agĆ”inst infantry. And yo ustill seem to not be acknowledging the difference between the planeās performance.
The later versions do much better at range. A lot more controllable. Also faster TTK.
Shouldāve already been here when allies got the PPSH.
I myself havenāt used it much, but Iāve heard itās just a discount PPD. At level 35.
I mean, You donāt have to use it if oyu donāt want to. And as for the stuff here, most of it is just optional stuff that gets a better alternative later on.
What if I didnāt bring it? Because I donāt like flying planes in this game. Which is because If Iām not on the ground, my team is incapable of defending/pushing and overall, planes donāt do much. You get like 10 kills once every 2 minutes, canāt build anything or cap anything. So what if I decided to bring a vehicle that would actually be able to help my team push fortified objectives - a tank. What do I do now? The AT gun is meh and detpacks work only at short ranges. What to do?
Now youāll say:
But to that i say: 1) way too high level for most players to use.
2) I canāt fuckin aim with it, cause itās drop is horrible and itās sights are hard set to like 30m or something.
Because thereās a lot of high level alleid players around. At least 2 every match. For axis itās more like 1 everyy 3 matches. And T50 is a lvl1 gold order unlock everyone seems to have. The T50 makes up at least 40% of the tanks you see on the battlefield.
Becuase theyāre lvl1-9, and have less then 20 hours in this game. And they never improve cause their equipment is shit, so they just quit. And then new players come and quit, never getting good gear or getting good.
It kinda is. Though tunisia maps have combat that perfectly fits the starting carcano, so overall the equipment gap is less noticable.
Donāt want to say, but
Skill issue,bro
Yeah, I know, I do have multiple of those, but still doesnāt mean it isnāt trash to aim.
Itās kinda obvious how to aim that thing, i kinda learned it
BTW, most of the time ā donāt aim the GRB. Jusdt shoot,dont aim.Works perfectly most of the time
Then how?
Yet that only works short range, where the grb is made obselete, because of detpacks.
So I kinda only need it outside of detpack range, where i canāt seem to hit shit with it.
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I dont know how to explain it tbh (xD), best exp ā battle exp
You said it was obvious though.
Obvious
But not obvious at the same time
sheesh
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So easy yet hard, got it.
Nah itās not.
And if a fighter works againat both tanks and infantry, itās better if it works only against infantry, but slightly better.
Not much faster actually. PPD also has better sights than ppsh.
Aināt that enough?
I donāt want to see both sides running around with the same damn guns, like they do in BF. Even while germans had captured guns, most of them still used kars, gewehrs, mps, etc.
Thatās your personal problem if the game gives you a way to deal with tanks and you donāt wanna use it.
Juuuust like T-34. But you still complain about it.
Oh so thatās different! So you want to deal with endgame stuff being a newbie, but thatās not how gaijin games work.
It isnāt. Tunisia axis are bots or they are trying. Berlin and moscow axis can not be bots, can not be newbies, but still be retarded af.
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Still donāt see your problem.
Yak1 is a better plane, gets slightly worse bombs. BF-109F1 is a slightly worse plane, gets slightly better bombs.
The alternative would be giving the F-1 4x50kg and the yak either 2x100, in which case it gets both better bombs and anti-air, or giving it 2x50kg, in which it barely even gets bobms.
Quite a bit actually. Sights are subjective.
No, cause itās a worse version of a thing the other side gets, a whole 24 levels higher. IĀØd like it instead of the berreta at least.
And most still will, cause most players are low level and these things are high level. Only a few players will have it and not all will choose to use it.
I gave you a whole explanation as to why planes are simply worse than tanks, so I have to make a choice between easily countering enemy tanks (well, 1 tank every 4 of my spawns) or having a vehicle that can actually do soemthing to change the outcome of the match. Honestly, your point would only be valid is f2p players could have 2 vehicle slots.
They are bots and newbies. Just look at the stuff they use. G33/40, kar98k, Mp28, MP38, kar98k with scope, panzer 2. Thatās not what a high level palyer uses.
From my experience, barely.
I had no problems using mp38 and still have no problems using bolt actions.
They have problems (mental ones probably) using mg34, pz4 or g41. Again, I donāt blame newbies. I blame ones who arenāt new to the game, and still refuses to do anything but sucking dicks. They even say how much they donāt want to do anything useful. āDo it yourself smartassā. Thatās the problem.