I think it would be very interesting if DF added any PvE missions related to the history and current companies.For example, a counterattack by soviet troops near Moscow.
Either they used some kind of heroic act of the squad\tank crew\pilot, which correspond to the current four campaigns.If we have maps of Volokolamsk only.
Then an example could be 28 Panfilov men.
Surely there are similar cases on the german side and in other campaigns.It can be interesting and informative.
You know that one is just a legend and has almost nothing to do with reality?
But more events could be fine. They could do Battle for Crete now that we have parachutes.
It depends on the propaganda.
As always.
I tend to think this is also true and I have no reason to change my mind.
Someone believes that Eric Hartman shot down about 300 planes.And he dont must believe in it?
Pantofils are huge propaganda piece, but i get why they did that at that time.
With Hartman it is easier, he did most likely shot down even more planes, but he was not credited. Germans had really hard conditions for crediting plane kills to pilots.
Wittmann is much more propaganda piece than Hartmann tbh. There were tank aces that were better than him, but still lot of people dont know about them thanks to that propaganda about Wittmann was realy huge.
And here is propaganda again.
Why would you call someone propaganda and protect someone?
You’re czech, not german.
In my opinion, 28 Panfilovs are much more truthful than 300+ downed planes.
It’s just physically impossible.
Its not, there were lot of Russian planes to shot down, lot of pilots on Eastern front had huge scores. And there were flying for 4 years (3 in case of Hartmann) without any break. Germans had this huge score because they were fighting for whole war, they didnt had turnus like Allied pilots had. Also you can see that German pilots against Western allies didnt had such a huge score, because there were much less planes to fight.
Soo Hartmann’s story is in my opinion much truthfull than 28 Pantofilovs.
To be honest, this is absurd.Why, if the Germans had dozens of such aces, they still lost in the air?
That’s why I don’t agree with you.
Why 28 Panfilovs are not truthful is a mystery.
I still do not understand such an ardent defense of german exploits and denial of soviet ones.
I don’t know? maybe because it looks like a level of COD
USSR, late November 1941. Based on the account by reporter Vasiliy Koroteev that appeared in the Red Army’s newspaper, Krasnaya Zvezda, shortly after the Battle of Moscow, this is the story of Panifilov’s Twenty-Eight, a group of twenty-eight soldiers of the Red Army’s 316th Rifle Division, under the command of General Ivan Panfilov, that stopped the advance on Moscow of a column of fifty-four German tanks and hundred of infantries who guarded tanks’ flanks of the 11th Panzer Division for several days. Though armed only with standard issue Mosin-Nagant infantry rifles and DP and PM-M1910 machine guns, all useless against tanks, and with wholly inadequate RPG-40 anti-tank grenades and PTRD-41 anti-tank rifles, they fight tirelessly and defiantly, with uncommon bravery and unwavering dedication, to protect Moscow and their Motherland.
Because these aces were mostly on Eastern front, and Germany lost air war on Western front.
Also those kills can be found and comfirmed.
Also good article about it: https://www.quora.com/Are-the-tales-of-WWII-ace-Erich-Hartmann-exaggerated-or-was-he-really-credited-with-352-victories
Its easy, how can force of 28 men stop Panzer division and destroy 20 tanks? Bruh.
This is again not as absurd as one person can shoot down 300+ planes.Germany tanks in 1941 are not good.
It is likely that aviation was transferred from the eastern front to the western one.
But rather the opposite.
Did the British shoot down a lot in 1941-1943?
The germans had more planes on the eastern front than on the western front.
There were never a lot of planes on Western front because most of Luftwaffe was focused on Eastern front.
Hartmann flew 1,405 combat sorties, and his tactics was to get as much close to enemy plane as you can, and use as few ammo as you can. He was even shot down 16 times, sometimes by his own mistake because he was too close to enemy planes and debris hit his plane.
They had inadequate AT weapons as already @gastanofrizzi pointed out, also those tanks were not alone, there were Infantry with them. Sure they could scratch few tanks, but no way Infantry would let them kill 20 tanks without doing something. And those tanks for sure fired themselfs.
For what period?
It is likely that there were some more than 28 of them.
But still less than the Germans.
I don’t see any problem with that.
A smaller number could always defeat much superior troops.
There are quite a few cases in history.
For period of 3 years.
Yeah there are few cases, but most of time they have either experience or better weapons. But those Soviet troopers were novices against Veteran forces. Im not saying that defence didnt happends, but there were much more soldiers than only 28 of them. Especially when it was supposed to be defended by whole division, if it were only 28 of them left, they would be assigned to another division.
Lmao.
3 year = 1095 days.
Did he fly more than once a day?Are you laughing?This is even more absurd.
It is likely that after the defense there were 28 of them left alive.
This was a critical time for the Soviet Union.
So maybe they couldn’t be transferred anywhere.
After all, this is an extraordinary case.
Quite often especiatly at the end of war pilots were flying constantly.
Its nothing absurd, German Pilots did more than one sortie a day, lol. They had first one in morning, fuel last for an hour, hour and half. Then he returns to base and goes again.
This is not nothing absurd even in air force of another nations, do you really think that British pilots flew only one a day during battle of Britain? No they did not, they would have lost anotherwise.
I already said that i get why they have this story. But it is just not real one.
Bad explanation.
If he had flown so often, he would have fallen asleep long ago and landed somewhere in a ditch at high speed.
Like hartman
well these badasses came first in my mind.
Oh my god. Even Allied pilots comfirmed he did it, even Soviet ones.
He was flying against obselete planes with crews that did not had much of training, its not hard to shot down those planes.