As do I
while I admire Hartmann, the title of âundefeatedâ belongs to Hans Joachim Marseille. (itâs even written on his grave as single word / epitaph)
So true. I need the Yellow 14 BF-109 Enlisted ASAP.
He was truly a mad lad of his time. Not only did this man get away with strafing his COâs quarters with his BF-109, but he ended up receiving the Iron Cross out of it. Arguably, one of the greatest mad lads of all time.
: There is just no God. And people just stupidly argue, refer, give an example and blame what/about thing which is even not exist. What a classic corruption. There seems to be a God, but there is no him. And the money for him is was paid.
There are as many proves that god exists as there are proves he doesnât exist. About none. Thatâs why itâs called faith and not science.
Scientism in nutshell
It was fascinating in a science course in university, when the professor asked the class:
âIf we refer to the scientific method, which is used today to establish scientifically proven facts, is there a God, or is there not?â
(Class debate)
âThe answer is simply that, science CANNOT prove that God doesnât exist. As such, it must acknowledge the possibility that He does, even to the displeasure of many scientists and atheists.â
In short. Even science is inclined to accept the possibility, until proven or disproven.
So!!!
I think thatâs nonsense. Especially since one has to define what God is in the first place.
And the fact that current science canât disprove/prove the existence of such a thing is not at all suggestive.
Current science doesnât even have a proper answer to quantum physics. And why the behavior of particles is affected by mere observation.
The fact that consciousness is a no go topic for most mainstream scientists doesnât help either.
Thatâs why I think such statement has zero value.
You can refute/debate all you want, as well as believe what you wantâŚ
Iâm just stating what the scientific method is.
Anything must be deemed possible, until disproven.
Iâm not the one who made it up
All I am saying is that possibility has no value and thus it means nothing.
Thatâs why I donât like his statement.
Again, you are free to think soâŚ
Itâs the method, nothing more. It allows humanity to experiment seemingly impossible things to discover new stuff. If after experimentation, itâs proven it trully is impossible, then itâs accepted as such.
Until then, science cannot just say
âit doesnât exist because I think it doesnât existâ
With such belief, the sun would have continued to go around the earth in the mind of ppl.
Until something come to invalidate the hypothesis (happens often with technology advancement)
Exactly, but what is the value of saying that science canât confirm something? It doesnât mean anything at all.
It doesnât matter what science âthinksâ. It only matters what it can proves and everything else is irrelevant.
To say that science cannot disprove or confirm something is just an empty sentence that has no value.
It does.
It prevents facebook âscientistsâ who proclaim dumb things like âgenre and sex are social constructsâ to be taken seriously by peers.
It merely means that the scientific world acknowledge it is limited by itâs technology and other things.
It just means, if we cannot disprove it, then thereâs a possibility it may, until we are sufficiently advanced to discover if itâs yes, or no.
Saying like you do, that something doesnât exist until itâs discovered is just the opposite of the method, it just close doors to genuine possibilities, discoveries, in favour of personal beliefs.
Again. Iâm not making it up, itâs literally how it works and is established You can write to Science⢠or Nature⢠or National Geographic⢠or any recognized scientific publishers
That YOU disagree with established science, butâŚ
They may not take you seriously.
Again:
It means âwe donât knowâ. And thatâs also a useful information.
Best summary.
I wanted to write a similar thing but I didnât want to kick an anthill
Well, it depends on what you mean by âweâ. Because I certainly wouldnât see current science as a unified whole.
This is beautifully illustrated by the current events surrounding UAP. Even science is politically influenced. Grants are not given on certain topics at all. These topics can then be done by independent scientists at most as an overnight hobby.
And the fact that thereâs possibility of something just because current science doesnât have the answer has really no value at all.
The world does not need science to exist on its own.
Itâs a problem with ppl, not with scientific method.
Science, math, a gun arenât good or bad. But they can be used by good or bad ppl.
Stating what we donât know is the first step on a road to discovery.
True. But we need science to try to understand the world.