Historical accuracy purists are clowns

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as a person who like immersion and authenticity
i am really stunned by stubbornness of some people in the forum.
first of of, this is a video game.
people play video games for fun.
real war is not fun, read memoires of veterans or talk some of them if you know any veteran.
unless they are not equivalent of Adrian Carton de Wiart or Otto Skorzeny, i dont think he will say anything positive or entertaining about his combat experience.

lets get back to our topic:
most hated plane by axis, p-47, first introduced in 1942 november
so we should be able to see p-47 spammers raping german panzer4s and 3s at tunisia
standart rifle for us soldiers was m1 garand, springfield was mostly used by marines
mkb 42 was never used at moscow or stalingrad, we have no record of it and yes russian smgs were far more superior to germans in every way in real life too.
germans also couldt find a permanent solution of endless t34 and kv1 spam of soviet in real war until the tiger 1 .
fg 42-1 was better then fg42-2 bcs fg42-2 is actually late war cheap production
japanese never used heavier tanks tahn ke-ni at island campaigns
most of the germans must have very limited ammo, very few tank, most of them must be elder old child soldier with ww1 weapons at their hands
etc…
i really want to see those “history experts” at some custome game, playing japan with just arisakas and hago, only 20 mm at rifle against us sherman,m2 carbine and total us air supremacy and trying to hold their ground.

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I wouldn’t mind at all trying to play that game. War ain’t fair, the opposing side always has better stuff, etc. Gimme Polish Army 1939 simulator. Gimme April 9th Simulator (Dutch Army vs. Wehrmacht).

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It is enough to go to Berlin for the USSR or Tunisia for the axis

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Let such people create their own lobby against bots with historically accurate weapons

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1: Correct
2: Oh boy how correct you are, This post is the atomic bomb and it’s going to explode at some point.

I agree with you tho, A game shouldn’t be 100%
I don’t feel like spawning, being blown up and losing my soldier due to I spawned and have to repeat unlocking a new one.

Or be forced to use untrustable weapons against m4a1 shermans as a japanese soldier.

I want to have the game feel realistic but not overly realistic.

A good 50/50 would be fine with me, Stuff like semi automatic prototypes and gold order weapons are fine, But having stuff like soviets fighting with the allies against the japanese in the pacific would be a no.

I feel the merge will make things a little less HA but it will be a good trade off.

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Tbf, if taking HA, Soviet quality would affect their performance, the german will lose every late war match, the US will use M4 in every where, the volkssturm will use Civilian wclothes and every one of them use a Panzerfaust as default weapon, the any hard to kill tank counter for german is still the trusty flak 88mm until they get the Tiger I running, P47 exist but the german should have at least 6 flak formation everywhere in Normandy till Berlin, and even SPAA because they actually mass produced those to fill their lost of luftwaffen planes…

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yeah and if they want a REAL and Ä°MMERSÄ°VE ww2 game there are tons of milsims out there enlisted is more on the casual side and they should aim to make it more fun to play not more realistic

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Dont really mind what they do at customs.
Think the bigger issue is that for some reason these fellows feels like theyr entitled to get own matchmake probably for each different HA view they have.

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Make T-34 frontal armor yellow and increase dmg of cannons inside T-34s as those things were small as fuck inside and we can talk about that here.

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I am also a supporter of historical authenticity.
But, but, but, but…
There is no wipe in the game.
The new ones have a problem and bounce off the game because it throws them into battle with units that have only stg44, FG42, M2 carbines, ASV and other miracles on a stick.
You want full historical authenticity it’s just teams of riflemen and one LMG per team and one AR and assault teams (originally called sappers) because sapper teams did the assault and that’s where the flamethrowers were.
The mortar should be manned by at least three people, the cannon should be manned by a squad, and the cannon should be deployed like any other squad.
All parachute units should be treated as normal infantry as before, with no special drop-off mechanics. Unless airborne operations (attacker-defender matches) would be added.
Tanks should be put out of combat even if there is no penetration.
And turbo realism together with friendly fire.

We know that the developers are planning a historical/realistic mode in the future, and for now we have to see where the changes are going.

And the only way to balance or add new armies in the future is to add experimental units and those that existed only on paper.
There is no other way to supplement Japanese or Italian trees, not to mention Polish, Finnish or French trees.
And the issue of the British tree, where almost half of the British army’s land armament was of American production.

Although it should say the army of the united kingdom of Great Britain, because this army was composed of many countries, cultures and nationalities.

Concluding this, my further support for the game will depend on whether the game continues to go towards ninja warriors or we will see the enlisted characters moving realistically again, and additionally you will see the weight of the equipment you carry.

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I want a Panzer IV F2 to be able to destroy all targets of its period of time at up to a 1000 meters distance reliably, not because I want gameplay to be this way, but indeed because of historical accuracy.

Am I a bad person because of this?

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You lost me when you said people want 100% historical accuracy

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so we should add landing at a airfield most then 50 km away and remove tank pinging?

irrelevant

if we had maps that even remotely resemble the battlefields of ww2 ingame then the russian smgs would instantly become rather usless

only the kv1, the t34’s performance was rather crap, untill the 85’s but even then still shit

when are they going to get to defend beach landings?

i dont even understand what you are saying here?

i would fucking love to but only a a large map, the current maps are too small

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These characteristics are enough for the early soviets to spank the early Germans on the enlisted maps, lol

You can find such cards in mods.

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Sure buddy,

you know there is a reason why the soviets replaced the drum mag ppsh41 with pps43.

They legit thought the MP40s were superior weapons.

If you ever had a drum mag weapon in your hand you would know the disadvantages of such.

I don’t want to know how many soldiers died alone by the fact that even the slightest movement makes the mag rattle really loud, giving away your position.

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Also this is nonsense, Panzer IV F2 and Stugs were much superior tanks in practical terms.

People are forgetting that real tank combat took place at over 500m distance which made soviet tanks suck big time.

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definitely don’t need Historicl Purity, as other games that run that style are just horrible games to play with a worse culture than this crowd, and that’s saying something

still

hate to see this game move further towards clown world with this upcoming BR System

Can live with a little bit of clown world, but not full clown world

at least it was fun while it lasted, always knew it had to end at some point

RIP Enlisted 2023 for me

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They considered it a good weapon for vehicle crews, not an excellent weapon.

In the game, they meet at a distance of 300-50 meters, the panzer 4’s cardboard, square armor does not give it advantages

Given the lack of tanks, this would be funny

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Bye bye

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Good example of why historical andys are clown, the maps should be 4km2 or 8km2 size, if I don’t see them fighting for that than they aren’t legit in favor of historical accuracy