the vitality is a universal perk… Thats not what makes them op. Even though i actually purchased the bundle I dont use the squad because it doesnt suit my playstyle. I feel like most of the complaints are coming from alpha tryhards who dont want to buy the squad. WT WOT all have this type of system in play to monetize the game, this will be no different.
I have the squads. I don’t use them, because I’d rather level my regular squads. It’s not a case of people being mad that they don’t have the perks straight away, it’s a case of people being mad that the perks exist in the first place. Two wildly different thing.
Also, both WoT & WT don’t have premiums with more health than their tech-tree equivalents.
so your saying that in wt premium vehicles are on a level playing field as standard earned? that is cimpletely false
Where did I say that, exactly? I said that the premiums in War Thunder have as much health as their tech-tree equivalents. They all have the exact same weaknesses and can be destroyed accordingly.
premiums are almost always going to be better than their equivelent non premium in one aspect or another in most f2p games. you are arguing over a universal perk making the unit better, ANY unit can have 35% more health. this is the wrong hill to die on in terms of prem accounts
And they are better by virtue of having the PPK-41 & MP-41 for Russians and Germans respectively. This isn’t about premium squads in the slightest. It’s about the perk existing. It’ll promote a meta of extra health + semi & full-automatics running around tanking shots from people who haven’t gotten as far as them.
I’ll reiterate: Nobody is going to stick around in a game where it takes 2 bullets to kill and 1 to be killed.
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oh, jeez yeah I just saw a whole bunch of people bringing up prem squads in the thread was trying to redirect. Not trying to be devils advocate but what about HnG heavy set perk, isnt it pretty much the same thing? that game has been around for quite some time and the only game I see putting a nail in its coffin is this one which has a 35% perk basically the same thing as HS gold.
That game has been making $ for years even with the emba perk 
absolutely… I once entered C with my squad from the door and I saw a preium russian guy i shot him with my 33/40 still he shot me and continued killing all my units the moment i changed to another of my unit he was downed already perfectly balanced
So those who pay are only the real players others dont have any right to play the game right?
No you can play the game just dont be angry when someone spends 30$ to have a maxed out squad. you got the game for free as an alpha tester so grind out a maxed out assault squad or buy one. Either way you got 2 options which is better than what non alpha players got
the problem is german gun needs two shots and russian one needs only one to kill…I mean the basic rifles
that is true I noticed that. The balance is really weird for STARTER rifles, shouldnt they be =
This isn´t about who received game free and who bought it (as “compensation” for not being able to play in alpha, lol), we are all (well most of us… at least) here in this thread to do our best to ensure that Enlisted will not fall into P2W model just like WT did. Let me remind you WHAT is definition of P2W
Making in game purchase that will grant player considerable competetive advantage over those who did not make that purchase.
That is literally definition of premium squads as they are now.
But back to the topic:
For all I care I wouldn´t give a damn about health perks if this perk would be rare to see AND possible to obtain only by long dedicated playing.
However, these squads are disgustingly bringing this perk in masses against new players with stock action bolt rifles. As result, what we have here, are armies of bullet eating cylon centurions with almost zero recoil and maxed out stability when receiving damage.
So premium squads are merely a tool allowing us to see how broken this perk is and what damage would it cause in future in any way. (There are a lot of threads already pointing out how broken is premium squad in general, so I won´t discuss it here more broadly)
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In my opinion the Vitality (additional Health) and recoil perks should just be removed. Weapon handling should always boil down to an individuals skill, and no unit should be able to absorb bullets like a character in Halo. I’ve bought both of the elite packs and have used them extensively in all game modes, I’d be so much happier if they were grounded a bit more like the other units. On top of that, you should still have to rank up elite squads whether you buy them or not.
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your name is not changed to cbt tester take a look at athat if you have bought those
Idk? I’ve been here since the Moscow playtest started, before it went into closed beta. Just got the Founder Pack like two weeks ago so idk why my tag hasn’t updated, not that it really matters.
I think it matters
The way i meet this perk today was like im running with my winchester rifle and kill, kill, kill. I must admit after i shot three times at premium guy and dies Im starting to think there is something wrong with this.
so ypu finally admit that something is wrong right? with this health perk
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With no sarcasm, I must congratulate you for observing this. That is in short issue with this perk. Now imagine also non premium guys having it (and in huge numbers eventually… it is not problem now, but will be as time goes).
Now this can be seen mainly on premiums which effectively makes them P2W even more (its not only aspect that makes premium squads as they are now P2W mechanic).
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