Tank HE shells only concuss in close proximity. They do not have any area damage. Many occasions of putting a shell next to a group of enemies within 2 feet of impact just to concuss and not kill any of the enemies. Please improve the HE shells to do actual damage so tanks can be more than MG platforms!
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HE is not a perfect weapon - especially high velocity tank shells (even low velocity ones are high velocity compared to say hand grenades)
I don’t know whether Enlisted models the sort of weird fragment distributions that real life artillery has - fragmentation is not a nice even circle/sphere.
But there are many cases of HE causing plenty of casualties in tight groups that have been well documented - so perhaps you can provide a video to show what you mean?
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Wish I could, I am an xbox player and don’t really have the tools to provide video. But I have used a full load of HE from the m5a1 in tight alleyways to test the HE and there was no area damage nor fragmentation from the HE shells. I have also put many HE shells into walls inches above an enemy’s head and only concussing them. They should have more of a explosive fragmentation impact but they don’t. just more like giant stun grenades
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sounds like you are expecting far too much of the 37mm gun!!
The 37mm HE shell is actually a MINIATURE stun grenade - it has less HE than a hand grenade 39 grams - about 1.3 oz vs 1.85-2.6 oz for the US M2 hand grenade.
But it is just not the 37mm, Sherman’s, and all the Russian and German tanks have the same HE effect. none of the HE shells have any splash effect. Also if I shoot two guys literally on top of each other in a door way, there is no way that the other guy slightly in front and within inches of impact is going to survive. They might as well remove the HE shells and double the AP shells with the lack of splash damage.
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Provably not true - eg see https://www.reddit.com/r/enlistedgame/comments/lu2xdq/tank_rolls_up/
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Which tank was that though i have never gotten the same effect under same circumstances with other tanks
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BT-7 with 45mm gun
I get it occasionally with the same tank, and with the same gun on the T-26 - but it does require close grouping of the enemy!!
I think people have vastly inflated expectations of the effects of HE due to (cough) video games! 
even without the inflated explosives and tanks that more casual fps gives to HE shells, they are still underpowered and do not function correctly. if an HE shell lands next to your face in a building you would be dead from fragmentation or explosive force not concussed
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Indeed you would. but posting that as an anecdotal example of a problem really doesn’t help anyone.
so i tested the 37mm HE shell again and it does not have any area damage or fragmentation. i knocked down a near enemy and put a round right into the ground right under his face and all i did was concussion and no damage
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I have noticed this as well. It seems to do exactly the same area damage as an AP shell, which is virtually nothing. I have put HE shells into groups of enemies, only to watch them run off happy as a pig in muck!
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The splash is inconsistent but it’s there.
Sometimes my M5 can down a group in 1 shit, sometimes I can hit the wall next to someone’s head and do nothing.
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I’m only at Lvl 3 in Normandy - had Stuarts for a couple of hours now, and can compare them with the Soviets I used all day yesterday - the 37mm HE is definitely lacking compared to the 45mm.
According to this page - From 45mm to 57mm - The Russian Ammunition Page - 45mm HE had about 135 gms HE - that’s almost 4 times as much as hte 37mm - which only had 38gm!!
So yeah - it is rubbish - and rubbish is what it should stay, because it was a rubbish shell!! 
HE itself is not actually broken - the US 37mm HE shell is just a bad shell.
Solution: Canister shot.
probably the reason they used it IRL too!!
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I am also feeling that HE shells do little to no area damage, especially with the first German tank in the Moscow campaign.
There is something screwy with HE. If you land a 50-75mm shell next to troops, it just concusses. If your shell hits an enemy directly, the splash damage will kill all surrounding troops.
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Is there a source for it being used by the tanks in-game?
T-28 shrapnel shells are the only ones I can find half of a source for and that’s just because they’re in war thunder.
Otherwise it looks like they were justed used with towed AT, artillery, and British 57mms
Stuart