Give us something more efficient to counter T34

That is due to lack of coordination of red army in early phases of war. Stalins purges wrecked the best officers of army in late 30’s.

more than that. Build quality, bad fire control, cramped, poor optics, tank commanders doubling as gunners, no radios. etc etc. lots of reasons

even when they solved all these problems late war and they clearly had the initiative (going into t-34-85), they still lost 3 to 1.

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T 34-85 came out at 1943 to counter new tiger 1 and panther
When soviets are on offensive and germans were defensive.
Offensive side nearly always lost more then defensive side.

“Generally” Id agree with that. Just don’t forget Germany was initially on the offensive (with mostly panzer IIIS), and Russian tanks including T-34s were still lost at a rate of 6 for every German vehicle.

Yes we can just put it down to Russians tactics suck in general (zerg tactics, but hey In the end they won. personally I find zerging an appalling waste of life). But that’s the only way T-34s have been used. Hard to say if they would have actually been good “tactically” under another Flag/Doctrine.

t-34 was made to fit the doctrine, minimal refinements, easy to mass produce. And ofcourse Russia had the industry to make this happen.

Yeah well take a bit of time to understand the game, not just claim everything is OP because you can’t 1 tap it.

Stug is not free in any campaign

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“To counter Tiger and Panther”

And did it " counter those tanks?

Firepower wise even the Panther alone was supperior to every Allied vehicle on the field, with tanks like the Pershing and the SU 100 being the exception.

Are you listening to what I say? One tank can one tap, the other doesn’t.

How is this acceptable? Why are you defending this?

Cut the crap and stop telling people how to play the game as a response to actual balance problems.

I think the Soviets always lost more men than the Germans.

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Panzer j came out 1944 yet it still suffers greatly against t 34 85 in berlin, a tank designed in 1943.
Panzer 4 f2 came out in march 1943.
Even j doesnt have a chance against 34-85
Only panthers can deal with mid level russian tanks.

It was a downgrade from panzer H

All of you have understand that enlisted tank combat is unrealistic

in reality wen the tank hull is compromised the crew bail out, in enlisted you can say fuck up and keep shooting because is a game you dont die

the f2 can pen the t34,kv1 but lack sufficient explosive filler for one tap them, instead kv1 and t34 dont have this problem

and so, soviet tank are advantaged because of this, solution add more explosive filler in german AP

@Rickyd123 carabine master can confirm

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also, that’s the other thing war thunder gives too much credit to. HE Filler in AP rounds.

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  1. Flank the tank (either with your own tank or dynamite)
  2. bomb the tank from the sky

if 1 and 2 do not work, use smoke in front of the tank. The T34 has poor visibility so anything blocking the view in the front completely negates this annoying beast

these tactics apply to ALL tanks in this game if you struggle shooting them from the front and understanding weak points :grinning:

Gold order stug F

And in merge whe can whait for free stug f

Isn’t there a Stug in Stalingrad? It’s locked to FA “owners” atm but I believe it will be unlocked for everyone after the war thunder conversion.

They said only pz4g would be “exclusive”… So in theory… STUG LIFE FO ALL!

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You can buy it with a gold order if you dont want wait

the panzer4 f2 has only 29 grams of filler on it’s APHE compared to the 150 grams of filler on the l-11 and f-34 cannons found on kv-1 and t-34 though keep in mind both russian cannons have worse penetrations than the american m72 found on the sherman and the jumbo

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That too. Those orders are kinda useful… Gimme some, you lucky bastard! :stuck_out_tongue:

Pay me first :crazy_face:

Add Russian death fridge.