I see what you were saying. Thought this was a pic prior to removing crossplay.
Has nothing to do with how to game works. Gamepad on pc means console player. Haven’t played on console so didn’t know it shows gamepad for other system. Has nothing to do with how the game works.
This might have already been mentioned elsewhere, but there is a simple way (on console, guess it applies for PC too) to figure out if you are playing bots or real players: Just go to the scoreboard mid-game (switch to “Interactive mode”) or after the match and click on any name. If there is a prompt to “Report” a player, it’s an actual player. If there is no prompt, it’s a bot. Of course, the names with a symbol are real players from another platform.
Chances are that most of the names in the screenshot above are bots, who are (sadly?) not clearly identified as those.
A lot of them are probably bots due to the much smaller playerbase on console, which was the reason to force crossplay to begin with, which has always been the main argument to keep crossplay, which has been told over and over to the console players by the PC players. The console players replied that they didn’t care about a few more bots in their matches as long as it was balanced, but you can see what happened with that lol.
Gotta love the outcry for the removal of crossplay, only to have outcry to return it right after it got removed.
Ofc the solution is to make it optional, but the devs should be working on that by now if they actually intend to make it optional instead of on/off, so I doubt there is much value in further discussing this.
Edit: sorry for unintended reply.
PS5 and XBOX are both underpowered PCs. They already have K/B & Mouse support. Crossplay is possible now BECAUSE all the hardware is AMD. Those consoles are built using PC parts now. Keyboard and Mouse support is basically built into the hardware. You (developers) just have to enable it in the game.
That’s thanks to a new FAQ from Sony, which says: “Yes, USB and Bluetooth keyboards and mice are supported at a system level, though game developers will decide whether to support at a game level,” writes senior director Sid Shuman of Sony Interactive Entertainment.
You can play with a mouse and keyboard if your game supports it. First, plug the mouse and keyboard into the USB ports on the Xbox One. Next, go to the Settings menu and select Kinect & Devices, at which point you’ll have options for swapping button mapping and configuration the pointer speed of your mouse .
Nah console players stay away from pc players but if they bring crossplay back give us an option to turn off crossplay.
They have been built on AMD hardware for this generation and the one before it (xbone and ps4). PS4 and Xbox one were built using a laptop tier APU and were underpowered shit.
Sexbox and PS5 actually have a decent setup and honestly aren’t underpowered at all this time around thank god.
Definitely not underpowered, even the Series S is more powerful than your average gaming PC if steam hardware surveys are anything to go off of.
I’ve been wanting a Series X, so the ability to enable crossplay would be nice for me.
that is a hilarious statement. You do realize that Steam Hardware survey’s include the Intel iGPU built into most desktop computers? Your “Average Gaming PC” can run circles around a console in most cases. Consoles hold their own on console optimized games that are optimized for their hardware. If the latest generation of consoles can play Arma 3 at 1080p or 1440p with a stable framerate of 60 or better, then I will accept your notion that they are better than the “Average Gaming PC”. Consoles are still using essentially APUs. Once consoles get user-replaceable GPUs, then they will be on par with custom built gaming rigs. Even my 11 year old “Gaming” PC (who really builds a PC just for gaming?!) can still curbstomp consoles in most titles as long as Im not playing at 4k. 1440p is where I play at. The only thing I have upgraded over the years in the GPU and that was one time.
Steam hardware surveys give a list of hardware, not “average performance”
That being said, what the hardware survey showed is that gaming PCs currently still tend to have GTX 1060s and RX 580s as the majority, so the Series S exceeds those.
Dude Arma 3 runs like turboshit even on good PCs if you’re running anything other than Vanilla. It is a horrible metric for PC hardware or console hardware
No, the Xbox Series S GPU does not exceed the RX580. The RX 580 STILL beats the Series S GPU.
XBox Series S GPU specs:
You will notice how it has a 128bit memory bus, 1280 shaders, 80 TMUs, 20 Compute units, 4MB of L2 Cache and 32 ROPs.
Now compare that to the stock RX 580 GPU specs:
You will notice that the only thing the XBox Series S card has more of is the L2 Cache.
RX580 specs:
Even the GTX 1660 has higher specs than the Series S APU.
No worse than Crysis
Yep
Im just saying that if you want to show the power of the console as whooping the “average gaming PC”'s backside, then it should be able to curbstomp the average gaming PC at games like Arma 3 or Star Citizen or other PC centrist games
tbh the S will shit on most toasters with the Sexbox and PS5 doing it to even higher tier PCs.
That’s where you’re wrong because both SC and Arma 3 are horribly optimized games. With Arma 3 being almost entirely single core performance based and not really taking advantage of multiple CPU cores which is what makes it an absolutely horrible metric considering even good PCs can’t run it. And just because a console can’t either doesn’t mean the console is shit.
Notice how the top DX11 GPUs are all Intel iGPUs?
Where are you getting your information about how the console hardware stacks up against the “Average Gaming PC” hardware from? Im curious because I use reputable sources for computer hardware. And Im not saying the consoles are shit either. Im just objecting to your notion that the consoles beat PCs in raw power.
Apples to oranges; specs can only be compared within the same architecture, so Navi 2 in the case of the Series S and X.
You’ll notice RX 6000 GPUs also have low memory bandwidth because Navi 2 handles it differently.
›Uses steam survey
Honey just stop
the Steam Hardware survey is not a good source for hardware comparison between a console and a PC. The simple fact is that a dedicated GPU on a PC has way more wattage headroom to work with. a dedicated GPU can stretch it’s legs more than one that is specifically tailored to fit within a TDP budget for a whole system.
I use reputable sources like TechPowerUp, Toms Hardware, PCPerspective and Gamers Nexus.