All tanks and artillery has always needed direct fire, well how about using what Big Action has already coded for SPG and Rocket vehicles, let them be used as artillery.
Yes it would mean, greyzone, but rocket tanks are not exactly hard to kill, neither would SPGs be either.
Be nice to have some indirect artillery and from a dev / effort perspective, it wouldn’t take too long as Big Action modder @tommyZZM could share his code I’m sure…
Feel free to discuss below, pro and cons, not just map too small please!
I don’t like the concept of “campers is throwing poops at you from behind the hill” while you’re trying to play actively. There’s literally no way to counter it. You can just hide. Or completely change playstyle, take a plane and go kill him before doing anything else.
It’s just extremely lame concept in literally every game. I still have PTSD from WOT.
I think if indirect fire is to be added, it would also require an intelligence exchange system between players, which would both limit the effectiveness of artillery and add deeper gameplay.
For example, in HLL it would usually be: Scout Squad → Commander → Artillery Officer → Artillery Crew
But based on my understanding of DF, they will definitely think that these mechanisms are too complicated for players, and I really can’t see their interest in large battlefields.
Even in the current game when playing as mortar, I have not met any stranger teammate who are willing to cooperate with me and tell me the battlefield situation.
I think 60% of the player base more prefered COD likes “all on my own” gameplay.
I’ve literally played X games where similar things were. What are you even talking about?
You act like you know better. And other people have wrong opinions just because they don’t have the right informations. And thus can’t form the right opinion that is consistent with yours.
Even if they have them. And they just aren’t interested in things like that.
Because you know, it’s called personal preferences.
This is clearly an unreasonable worry, as similar things have appeared in many games and even Enlisted, and did not cause the expected disaster.
Even current mortar in game can create much denser firepower.
I did play that but there objectives are like 500% the size of the once we got so random HE would most likely miss there.
Mortars barely cover any area on an objective.
So unless they somewhat direct hit your squad you are fine.
If they allow heavy artillary guns a single shell might cover half the damn point due to fragmentation unless they cap it at the odd 75mm gun caliber. But then what is the point of that when mortars would do the same but without blocking a slot.
Please play Big Action, rocket tanks indirect fire and you can built artillery pieces, not to mention Stuka and IL2 attacks (AI), these vehicles are not meant to be direct fire…
Just see the potential, what could be brought into base game.
Not sure if you understand my word correctly. I am saying that indirect fire vehicle will be hard to kill since you can’t even see them when you are on land.
This is the (war) game
So I support any equipment that appears in real life to appear in the game.
Especially equipment that provides more tactical options
If you don’t like other people’s tactical behavior using knowledge and equipment
Maybe you are more suitable for playing some FPS competitions
This is a (Team PVP) game
If you are the only one doing all the work
The problem is probably with your teammates.
Give up on these spies and start the next battle
Or report their war crimes
There is a thing called an airplane
He is very useful
As long as at least 1 out of 10 people uses the aircraft for the team, then the self-propelled gun vehicle will not be a problem
The same is true for mortars, isn’t it?
It’s just that the self-propelled artillery vehicle is bigger
The rocket car must ensure the shooting track so there is no problem of not being able to find it
The mortar vehicle has obvious lights and sounds.
You can completely determine the enemy’s location by the sound source
Then destroy him with guerrillas or mortars
certainly
In order to prevent the self-propelled artillery vehicle from hiding too far away
Limit the range of mortar and projectile modes to 100 to 250 meters
Don’t overestimate suicide infantry and FPS cognitively impaired patients
They are not even intelligent enough to use the terrain to protect themselves
So don’t overestimate their intelligence or autonomy
Because for them, building a respawn point that provides suicide infantry with faster kills by the enemy is already the limit.
The rest of their brains are used to discredit their enemies and mechanisms to find excuses for their incompetence and selfishness.
yeah those would work just like mortars, you’d score some kills if you’re really lucky or have well placed pings from your team, those classes are not designed to be countered, those classes put their valuable time into something that might not pay off at all, it’s the main reason why I don’t play mortars, often I score no kills at all and just waste time, I can’t understand the run&gun gatekeeping thing though, yeah I prefer more active gameplay but if there’s someone who prefer to sacrifice his time to really put good effort into playing more tactically based on players pings etc. I’m cool with it.
