Further BR Adjustment Suggestions

We are most dedicated playbase that played since first alpha/beta test, console players come and go and most never go outside of BR2

Oh really? But i’m not seeing much of console players that are running multiple premiums across many BRs like i do. Every console Enlisted stream/video you see on youtube is them running with just 4 slots + sometimes one cheap $5 premium, there are ofc some exceptions but they are even rarer than on PC. Even when you filter it through newest videos i’ve only seen two dudes at BR5 with zero premium squads and 8 slots.

I’m not really seeing them spending any money outside of slots/premium time where are they? And i mean premium squad/vehicle buyers on console, they were supposed to whale like Saudis according to you :joy:

Have you ever plugged in a controller before to see the difference? I’m generally curious, i don’t believe you have otherwise you would know that it’s a fact pc has significantly less recoil built into the game.

.2 dispersion difference is not notable. And it’s not just “5” difference in recoil, the m50 has 85% more horizontal recoil, as opposed to the berretta having 35% more dispersion. The recoil difference is much larger and recoil impacts a gun’s feel way more than dispersion does. The event austen has really high dispersion but still feels relatively good to use.

Anyways, i admit i was wrong. Guess it’s been a really long time since i last used the beretta since getting a bunch of premmy/event/gold order guns to use. Thought i remembered it performing quite well in close quarters, but guess i forgot how hard it was to use at distance. So yes the m50 is better at range, worse at cqb.

Yes and it aint much since Enlisted guns have low recoil.
So how much less recoil do you need to make you not skill issueing anymore?

Then what was the point above?


I own 11 squads for u.s., 10 for germany, 4 for russia, and 1 for japan accross all BRs and waiting for a couple to return.

Along with the 90+ gold order guns I’ve bought with cash. It’s not a competition to see who has bought more stuff, but it’s also a fact console players spend more money on games. It comes from the fact that most pc users pirate things and also won’t buy stuff unless it’s on sale. You can go research this if you’d like. Once again this game depends on console players to survive. Most console players don’t stream online or post about their stuff to begin with so of course you wouldn’t see it. Would you have known I’ve spent probably over several hundred on the game unless i brought it up? Most people have no reason to.

Well for starters it would be great if there was no recoil difference between platforms for an even playing field, and if you think it’s negligible then it shouldn’t matter anyways. To those who say “but console gets aim assist”…we’re all smart enough to know it’s way easier to aim with your entire arm than a single thumb, and aim assist sometimes can even play against you. Example, when trying to play sniper class the aim assist will pull you away from the target your aiming at when there are multiple enemies close by. We also know the bots run around and turn back and forth eratically, this will also pull your aim back and forth making it harder to hit your marks. I quite literally have to turn aim assist off whenever I feel like using a sniper.

aim-assist to pc as well ?

Read the post just above

That’s a myth not a fact, most never spend any money and vast majority of spenders spend just $5 on a single premium squad.

Just because you spend that much money doesn’t mean all of them are it’s a cognition bias. I see some lack of out of the box thinking in your posts and it’s yet another case of that.

You can’t seem to relate with other players and always hating on PC players like they are a bother and should be grateful to console masters that we have great game as Enlisted. :joy:

Most still buy games otherwise CDP Red and Capcom would be a much smaller companies as most sales are on PC, buying games on sales are still buying and providing money to the devs so decide yourself we pirate or buy games it can’t be both at same time. And what about f2p games? Enlisted is not a b2p game, PC is leading in MTX spending. Do you know about CS2? People spend hundreds of millions on opening cases each year. I spent more money on Enlisted last year than on real games.

So i guess War Thunder died long time ago because it never had a console version till very recently right? :thinking: Consoles just bring them more funds than needed, and they are not doing anything with that money anyway, where are new content outside of few planes? Yeah nowhere not a single new map in 5 fking months. And again with cognition bias, you don’t know anything about PC gamers spending you just pretend you do. If we are such a bother why won’t they shut down PC version and just use Console as their source of revenue?

No shit not everyone spends this much, but yes its a fact on average console players spend more on games as a whole over PC players as a whole. This has been researched and plays a role in how and why game developers choose to market things.

I’m not talking about war thunder, this isn’t war thunder. And currently console players make up probably close to half of the current playerbase. Someone said 1/3 earlier. So can even go with that. What do you think would happen here if enlisted lost 1/3-1/2 of it’s players overnight? It’s not that big of a playerbase to begin with.

Do you mind presenting these facts ?

console master race

perhaps I used wrong search term but something doesnt seem quite right

For one, games and addons have always historically cost more on console from launch and down the road will retain a higher retail price even after the game has been out a while. Can use nitendo as an example of this. They don’t put their games on sale even if its a year, 2, or 3 years old. It holds the same retail price and the console players buy it at full price. Games on PC drastically loose their retail prices even just 1 year down the road so a lot of PC players will wait several months for a new title to drop in price. The Grand theft auto developers have even talked about this themselves calling PC players cheap and this is why they’re deliberately not releasing it to PC at launch and probably won’t be for quite some time. It’s also going to come with a HEFTY price tag that console players will pay but PC players won’t.

That’s not what I’m talking about. That’s total revenue and if there’s more pc players than console players of course there will be more total revenue there. Im referring to the dollar amount spent on games by the individual. Not the whole

peak delusion without a single fact to back it up

if it’s been the case then you may think they would release Enlisted first on consoles not on PC

this is game owned and developed by War Thunder devs

According to calculations of the active matches, PC is ~52% of the game population so both numbers are not quite right. Also Console only lobbies are more dead than PC only lobbies

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so how could you have majority of players on console? When in fact then are in minority and spend less than pc players, especially with that nasty -30% cut for Sony/Xbox. Lose PC players = end of Enlisted

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like this ?

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No. That says per title. Assuming that’s in reference to average revenue per game, again as a whole.

“which shows that there are much more users who do not spend money on software on consoles than on PCs.”

Yeah, im sure you have better data so how about for once you prove your bs claims.

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Lol. So about half? I don’t know numbers but i assume a large portion of console players go into crossplay.

Point stands. What would happen if half of the players (console players) disappeared overnight? I think we can all agree it wouldn’t be good. So both platforms need to be considered and not just one over the other. The reason i say the guns should be balanced from a console perspective is because some weapons are extremely hard to use in comparison, meanwhile PC can pretty much use anything without much issue in the recoil department. As in, it wouldn’t make much difference to the PC gameplay if guns/tiers were balanced off the console side

the average skill level would increase drastically, games generally would be more balanced and by far more enjoyable.
Cost ? Perhaps slightly longer que time, im willing to pay that.

Give the PC players same option as consoles have, play with PC players only.
I dont care what kind of crutches you use on console vs console games.

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I’m looking for it. But it shows that only around 1/3rd of games are sold at full price on PC, and 64% of PC players have not bought a game at full price. Were as large majority of console players do. This all came out around the time GTA 6 said they weren’t releasing to PC because of it. They may of even been the ones to do the study

I only play in crossplay? And why would PC players need a lobby to themselves? Lol