The m50 is extremely inaccurate. Those two guns shoot at over 1k rpm and is extremely deadly and good guns. No way should they be in br1. There’s absolutely no comparison between them and the m50 and m3
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I would really like to know which stats you constantly refer to because the M50’s dispersion is 0.55. For comparison, the Thompson M21 has 0.58, and the BSA has 0.54.
I refer to the gameplay of it and how it feels. The m50 is significantly harder to hit what your aiming at (aka accuracy) over the thompson and berretta. The m50 jumps all over the place. Dispersion isn’t that important of a number if you cant hit the targets reliably in the first place. Im also sick of every one on here pretending like a huge population of players aren’t on console. It makes a huge difference in how the guns feel and behave. Balance should be implemented based on console over pc
your own skill issue is not related to game stats.
| Submachine Guns | Damage | Reload Timings (s) | Statcard Recoil | Actual Recoil | Moving Spread Increase | |||||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Weapon Name | Obtained | BR | 10m | 100m | Velocity | Magazine | Reload | Alt Reload | Rate of Fire | Vertical | Horizontal | Recoil Control | Vertical | Horizontal | Dispersion | While Aiming | Hipfiring | Visual Recoil | Recoil Dir | ADS Speed | Recoil Offset | Sprint Factor | Weight | Additional Info |
| M50 Reising | 5000 XP | I | 8.2 | 5.5 | 265 | 20 (+1) | 2.2 | 1.7 | 570 | 27 | 27 | 0.4 | 11 | 11 | 0.55 | 0.0 | 15.0 | 0.9 | 0.4 | 0.85 | 0.3 | 100% | 3.8 | 20/100 |
| M21/28 Thompson | 118000 XP | IV | 8.2 | 5.5 | 265 | 30 | 1.5 | 1.5 | 810 | 39 | 10 | 0.3 | 12 | 3 | 0.58 | 0.0 | 15.0 | 1.2 | 0.31 | 0.75 | 0.3 | 100% | 4.0 | 30/90 |
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Stats define gameplay, period.
If you wanna discuss feelings, go to the closest religious temple of your choice.
Why should we care abot console plebs who iirc make around one third of the playerbase? They get aim assist and the stats do not magically change on console anyways so apart from the first point, they have the same situation.
Are console plebs automically worse or what?
Right, we should value the platform with the least number of players. Heil Market Rules.
Its not a skill issue. Its the fact that the gun jumps hard. Im constantly in the top of crossplay matches being on console myself. Y’all are just incredibly nieve when it comes to how guns handle on console. Everything is a walk in the park on pc and so you think certain things are comparable when in reality it’s not. I’ll send a video of the m50 vs berretta later
First off 1/3 of the a playerbase is extremely significant. Take us away and the game wont survive. Pc players are also extremely cheap in comparison to console players, as in console players typically spend more money on games than pc players do
Well yes? Not only to my other points but the guns handle completely differently (worse) on console. And balancing should go off the side that handles worst, because everything is playable on pc for the most part. Without console the game dies point blank.
And first of all, 1/3 does not imply that you should shift focus from a major majority to a mediocre minority. Especially if the 1/3/ their console overlords charge fees for purchases and limits pre-order options.
I mean, at worst we could gett better graphics, which this game tries its best to downgrade since it released on XBox and PS around four years ago.
I would take that risk.
But I guess PC plebs are cheap because Microsoft and Apple never tried to charge money on PC to play online.
And charge comissions of up to 30%, reduing your revenue.
No, get a PC or git gud.
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Damn I actually feel offended as a console player myself lol
Honestly I grew up playing most of my games on Xbox. To have to completely switch from an Xbox controller to keyboard and mouse would be an unnecessary investment in time for me personally as I main and love this game. Could hardly find interest in other games since there’s nothing else out there that could replicate enlisted’s formula of being a first person shooter enabling you to control an ai squad. So if all things a say should be given to both console and PC. But the forums already does that task pretty well I can see
You lost me here
I disagree with many things, but there are right things.
Its not really an opinion here, it’s a fact that the gun jumps hard on console and is harder to control than the berretta. But even if you want to disregard that, and only want to look at “stats” the berretta is clearly a much better gun overall. It has significantly less recoil, almost half the horizontal recoil, unnoticeably more dispersion so not even a big deal there, and shoots almost twice as fast. It will win in a duel each and every time. It almost sounds like you have a skill issue with it to be arguing so hard for it’s downtier.
Why? I’m just saying console players should have a say in most updates too.
Ah, i understand now. A coma would of been helpful to understanding the grammar of the sentence. My bad. Thought it was a typo
Coma, or comma?
Perhaps he meant comma lol
It’s all good. I should consider using commas more often when needed
No its not. There again no fact that supports your claim and so far your claims were always wrong.
It has 0.76 dispersion. And has 7/6 recoil while M50 has 0.55 and 11/11, so you are completely wrong about the accuracy… again… because 0.2 is a lot compared to 4/5 recoil, while overdramatize recoil difference which is not much. But good job about the rof since its the sole stat next to damage that isnt wrong on the stat cards. And I guess we wont mention their huge damage difference.
Are you not the one who makes the unproven claim that the game makes console plebs play worse instead of admitting that its your own fault?