I own the PPK-41 squad and i say ney
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It’s premium squad tbh they should be better since you’re paying for it but to the point where it’s not too OP
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Right now there’s no reason to use premium SMG squads as the vanilla assaulter squad will begin to outperform them within the first 10 hours of gameplay.
Regular squads with investment should be better than premiums, but as it stands right now, you hit that level of investment too early to justify using premiums.
My Chauchat squad is as it should be, if only because it takes a while to unlock the madsen.
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The entire point of a “premium” squad is that you’re paying a premium for a squad that performs at a premium rate over the other squadrons. The perks being gone is fine, but the guns don’t perform nearly as well as they did in the CBT. Having an extra three people in the PPK/MP-41 squad is the best way to balance them out as you can have your PPK squad, plus an extra three soldiers to increase the squadron’s longevity and viability in battle.
LMG squads can stick to having four soldiers though.
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No they should not. Premium or not, nothing is exempt from balance changes.
You pay for the unique factor, not the power factor. P2W is bad.
Unique guns and uniforms.
That is why I suggest to let the 4 normal rifleman only soldiers be replacing the premium ones so they can be leveled without increasing the power level of the squad.
No. The point is you getting unique guns and unique uniforms.
They were not changed between CBT and OBT.
The CBT squads get to pick +35% health, so they can count for 5.4 soldiers just on their own
Why would anyone want to do that?
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Speedlevel stuff. The biggest complaint about the removal of the extra soldiers is that they couldn’t be used to speedlevel stuff anymore. That would fix it.
Who deliberately levels riflemen? Especially as they were nerfed coming into OBT
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Either that or assaulter for assaulter squad or gunner for gunner squad.
Don’t give them full flexibility for all soldier types for sure.
I had a feeling you wouldn’t understand why the majority of the playerbase bought the premium squads, since you were able to get them for free, but I’ll explain it for you in simple terms.
If a regular player buys any premium squadron - PPK, Beretta, Pz.38t, they do so for the express purpose of obtaining an advantage and earning more experience points. So, the premium squadrons must be better -mechanically- rather than simply looking different and having different weapons, to justify the player spending their money on the squadron.
As they stand at the moment, the premium squadrons we’ve been talking about are not worth the money you spend on them as the guns perform on a level equal to, and arguably lower than the starting submachineguns. There is still the premium experience gain but that alone is not worth what Darkflow are asking for the squadrons. Hence why people are asking to have an extra three players in their squadron.
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No, I was not. Outside of the MP18 and M3 field mod squads, I bought my own premium squads.
Uh no. I’ve seen plenty of posts about people buying them for the uniforms, or the unique guns.
I actually play my MP41 squad now as I do not use P2W bullshit. So it has increased in value for me.
which relies on the guns being actually unique.
The chauchat creates a completely different dynamic from the madsen, making it truly unique, so it’s a good premium.
MP41, PPK, and MG30 really are no different from the MP40, PPD, and MG13 respectively.
I used to buy them for uniforms and guns, but it has been completely destroyed not by the nerf as such, but by the manner in which it was done. Nerfing them this way immediately after sale campaign is quite deceitful.
For me the price is negligent, but I don’t like to feel fooled for my own money.
Premium squads should not be worse than non-premium, but they are with possible exception of vehicles. It can be remedied many ways, My personal idea is to give them one, but freely changeable specialist, which would keep their uniqueness without making them too powerful, but regardless of implementation, trust must be restored some way.
So far devs fixed a lot of mistakes and I won’t be surprised if they realize that keeping premium infantry as is they undermine the whole idea of this important way to support development.
MG30 is far more stable than MG-13 tbh and thus easier to fire while standing or on the move. PPK is extremely different from PPD (PPD have huge RoF and recoil, PPK is exactly the oposite and is usable on mid distances as well)
As for MP41, I always considered them as just a “MP 40 with semi automatic mode”, what made them literal laser guns is recoil perk.
That’s untrue, you got the MG squads via CC partnership.
The founders packs and in-tree prem squads should be able to mount three troopers or shit like engies, snipers, or whatever. There’s no reason to deliberately make them shit. I’m with @18777203 that the MG squads should stick to the four guys though
There’s new perks that are far more useful. Also they still died in one shot to the upper chest with the perk sooo lmfao
Ah I forgot I had those two. I mainly play Normandy these days lol.
Well it is up to you to decide what it unique or not.
So you’re taking a barely-passable standard as justification for buying premiums, and then the majority of premiums barely meet that standard if at all. That being the case is a very weak argument for that view on premiums.
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Well. You were “forced” to buy at least one prenium squad to enter CBT…
Which was the additional value that came alongside it - early access for the game.
I think most players just wanted access to the CBT. At least consider the feedback of the feedback regarding the CBT ofBerlin where many players prefer paying 10 bucks for the access only instead of the bloody 50 bucks for thr access and the sqauds.