This may be a highly controversial suggestion, but it would improve the matching environment a lot.
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What about stacks matched against stacks?
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Don’t think we have that much player
They might have to wait for 10 min for a battle
Would be even wrose if them all choose same faction
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Just make it a soft rule. Prioritize equal stacks, then difference between stacks, then none depending on queue times.
Most people that I know who stack already are playing queue any for the silver bonuses.
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Clearly you don’t know many people then /s
Who cares about it being controversial? Like a tiny TINY minority of artificial win farmers?
Just make it so that 3 or 4 sized groups cannot turn off “queue for a random faction”
Last night me and my friend literally had to stop randoming factions as every match would just be completely braindead USA team (6 to 8 players ending up with scores under ~500)
literally 6~8 people like this
vs a stack OR TWO of german spammers
Game quality right now is completely unacceptable.
I wish devs would just take their heads out of the sand and started disinventivising people who insist on only spamming overpopulated factions. Uncap queue times for them - so they actually have to wait in a FIFO queue for however long it takes to assemble a real enemy team (and none of that “let’s just send them some BR 1 players with one BR 3 SMG to murder with their pure BR 5 lineup” nonsense either). Have reduced XP/silver gain if you only queue for a faction that is currently having way more players than it’s opponents. As the thread says - send the stacks to do match balancing duty
What we need is a classification of players that matches their abilities
As long as the AI’s shooting ability is improved, the problem of insufficient numbers can be solved
Instead of having a bunch of voluntary suicides who are just going forward crying and slandering anything that kills them.
I can’t understand why you guys like to call your enemies spammers or use that title as a derogatory term.
They just choose a fighting style that is more efficient or reasonable in killing unthinking idiots
idk what would improve if you forced stacks to play any? instead of dominating with one faction, they would dominate with random faction? only thing that would help against stacks would be stacks vs stacks MM(or even separate stacks queue) which would have its own problems.
4 stacks are literally the worst balance issue in this game.
I still can’t comprehend why is it even allowed to have 4 men group in 10 vs 10 games. Especially since 4 stack vs 4 stack isn’t guaranteed.
What style? Picking only an overpopulated faction so they are almost guaranteed to fight against “unthinking idiots” with no gear? That’s supposed to be efficient and not deserving of riddicule?
In my extensive experience of spamming solo queue with “join any” on the problem with stacks is…the annoying ones only ever play on whatever faction currently already had almost guaranteed wins anyway. I don’t think I’ve literally EVER saw them on those starting-bolt-actions-BR1-vehicle-one-BR3-SMG-upiered-into-BR5-teams that are completely hapless.
Literally every single time I see them in my games the match would be drastically better if the stack was on the opposite side (of course the matchmaker is so bad they still might be put on the wrong side lul)
Take the typical USA team that is 80% completely brain-dead. If you’d replace 4 of those players with a 4-stack and the German team still remained pretty stacked
The US team should now win, but the match would be way more even, instead of the US team not even being able to leave spawn
corrected this for you.
tbh most of the teams are brain dead. only exception would be japan BR5 that has dedicated playerbase that is relatively skilled compared to most other teams. 4 good players in stack will overwhelm most teams no matter what faction they get. not to mention that forcing join any could lead to people just deserting when getting faction that they dont want.
Bad idea. If game forces you to play faction, people would quit.
In my experience USSR is decently capable across the board
Germany is often omega stacked (even if they are mostly mediocre at best, the mostly SSS-tier gear and just lots of at least somewhat sentient players filling most of the team carry them to easy wins)
Japan is a bit of a nightmare, BR2 is a ghost town (or you get a 105 Sherman hydra experience) and BR5…often faces “typical USA team” (starter carbines, A13 and some random BR3 item feeding them into BR5 meat grinder, complete lack of sentience, lack of vaccination against capzone cooties or even mass breakage of W key)
I’ve made my position on that pretty clear already too 
Egregious desertion rates should come with severe consequences. I fully believe completely moving away from ability to play one faction only would do wonders for the game long term
I’m super salty because I made the mistake of playing in the off hours and I just had the worst matches back to back. Getting put on the worst USA teams, enemy had one stack, then TWO stacks just running us over, while most of my team was sub 500 (or maybe 1000) score at the end screen. A complete joke
Game won’t forces you play specific faction in my suggestions
It’s all about using stacking people as faction trend damper, making faction win rate more closer to 50/50 in any time.
Than If win rate is fair, there won’t be much complain about can’t join specific faction.
And you always can play any faction you want by not stacking.
Guess someone should say that to whoever made the title of the suggestion.
Can you please read again
Any faction isn’t specific faction
Game shouldn’t makes anyone join specific faction
But send you to balance the current MM when you are stacking
this is wrong approach to the game. forcing people to play faction that they dont want to play will just leave to people quitting the game. also i agree that faction stacking is shit and only solutions to combat them is either to force players to play random faction or have any vs any MM (like WT/WoT/WoWS). both solutions have their own problems in regards to game.
TBH i would put all stacks in separate stacks vs stacks queue so they play with bots if needed instead of dominating solo queues. there would not be much difference in their gameplay experience even if they get full bot match.
Still says force.
I don’t care who you want to force to play what they don’t want to. It is still forcing players to play something else other than what they want to play.
Just due to some balancing needs
Like this one: I want to bring my SF rifle into BR1 battle, but the game force me to play BR5 that I don’t want to play.
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