First changes to battle ratings

The devs have shoehorned a game that has a translated rating of 1.0 BR to 6.7 BR, equalling 18 distinct BRs (1.0, 1.3, 1.7, 2.0, 2.3, etc…) into another game with a strictly 5 tier system.

18 → 5

And now people are airing their grievances over the disparity of vehicle performance.

If only we could have seen this coming.

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I know, M1 carbine is BR II, and is more accurate than VG1-5

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lmao. not even close. vg1-5, although mad about it going to br3, I understand it perfectly why it had to go there. m1 carbine even with its buff is still a ehhh gun in all honestly.

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Also you are out of your mind making OG43 a BR4 weapon, that dogshite should be at BR2 max, no, the flamethrower is dogshite or you are telling me you gonna make every paratrooper BR5 because they can grab a LMG or AT launcher out of it?

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What about the new players with T2 gear you think they will be able to kill it?

My main problem with KV is not necessarily it vs other tanks in which it is one of the strongest mid tier tanks I’ve used in this game.

My main problem is how hard it is for infantry to kill it with low tier AT rifles and det packs. It is obnoxiously hard to kill. + If you kill one another takes it’s place and the cycle continues. Tanks that are that hard to kill should not be facing newer players in T2 IMO.

What is the point of removing all the strong weapons from low BR if a KV 1 can just rock up and wreck their game?

Also in wide open maps It’s gonna wreak havoc on infantry while they try to take it out I’m an experienced tanker in this game and I bet I will have many a chill farming session where I don’t die and get an easy 100+ kills with the KV1. But how many new players will be put off by being on the receiving end of this?

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did you misread and though that it was m1 carbine when it was actually m1garand?

yea i may not have read the second paragraph but at least i didnt mistook m1 carbine for m1garand at least

Dude, legit both perform the same but VG has worse accuracy and double the mag size…

And you are telling me they should compete with full rifle size semiautos?

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Speaking of the OG43, isn’t the flamethrower potential of it a rank one flamer? Is it supposed to shoot a far jet or a short jet? If it’s short, make it BR3 to somewhat match the other short flamer ratings like roks 2 and flammen 35. Leave the roks 3, flammen 41, lanciaflamme, etc etc to BR4 or so.

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“We need war thunder br with nuuuumbersss QQ” happened.

My only comment today, peace.
Gene_Wilder_as_Willy_Wonka

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Flamethrower 1, but with only 100 units of ammo, and the damage of the 2nd flamethrower.

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Like you hinted, The main issue with splitting too many times is it splits the player-base, causing more bot games.
As this (at least to my understanding) is one of the reasons for doing the merge, it becomes counter-productive to do so too many times.

With current plan you have 4 factions queuing into effectively 8 Queues (2 per faction), but has an option that you can effectively queue into 2 simultaneously (Tier III).

If you split it to 3 it becomes 12 Queues and loses the multi queuing ability

Then the damage doesn’t really matter, a short jet - so should be BR3 at max then.

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And you didn’t read the 2nd paragraph

I am of the same opinion. A 20rd SMG squad, by default, has no business being in tier 4.

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I just feel like any equipment which is totally overshadowed and inferior to another item of the same type, should be at the lower range of the tier with the capability to downtier. If there is no reason to use a Panther over a KT, it should be able to downtier. If there is no reason to use an MKb over an StG, it should be able to downtier. If there is no reason to use a PPD-34/38 over a PPSH-41, it should be able to downtier. Obviously some items are so close in performance to where that shouldn’t be the case, but I’m not focusing on the items that don’t need adjustment.

May I present

I appreciate that Jpz IV 70 got 1 BR lower, but can you do that for every TD/casemate tanks except the M8 Scott? M8 scott should be BR2, not 1, cuz 1 makes Stuart irrelevant

Because if we took the same liberties on placing premiums or event squads because of its potential, then wouldn’t the chauchat squad end up as BR4 because it has the potential to build a heavy machine gun? etc

I don’t really agree with Panzer IV J going into BR 3, still think that devs should look into the possibility of using weapon rarity/stars to compensate for weakee late-war weapons. Worth remembering everyone here that the ratio of 3-star weapons compared to 1 and 2-star weapons has drastically gone up with the Tech Tree, as now half thw weapons have become 3-star by default and thus making the in-game economy more expensive.

Also from what I’ve read the problem with the KV-1 is that its armor for some weird reason is stronger than what the numbers tell us. Like, in theory should be penned by way more stuff than it does in practice. Might be a bug, idk. I’d rather keep it at BR3 with a “fixed” armor and see later KV variants (like the KV-1S) on BR4.

Just to be clear, My feed back isn’t because I think the KV-1 doesn’t belong at BR III. I think it does.

BUT

“Not while BR 3s can see BR 1s”. Having a KV-1 in low tier just dumpsters almost a dozen of fun options for low tiers and they can do nothing about it.

What happened to protecting the stuart from the tiger? Or did that literally only apply to the stuart?

If KV-1 has to suffer a little at BR IV until the ques sort themselves out to save a dozen other “starter” vehicles/equipment from suffering (especially your new players). so be it.

the good of the many over the one.

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